From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #908 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Sunday, September 20 2015 Volume 16 : Number 908 In this issue: "Retired Swedish Police Chief Says Malmo Crime Skyrocketing ... range day. Campbellford area Germany: Migrants' Rape Epidemic "We Are the Biggest Brothel ... Book Review: A.J. Somerset's Arms explores the rise of gun ... Re: Taxi driver injured as cab shot- tor star "Islamist' shot dead after stabbing policewoman" thelocal.de " Parents at Strawberry Hill Elementary concerned after ... 'Shooting near Jane and Firgrove sends 1 to hospital" A.J. Somerset: How Gun Tech Changed American Culture And ... Task force takes aim at firearms Trump backs gun rights Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Re: The Fallacy of 'Mr. Harper Could Not Give us Everything ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 14:22:08 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Retired Swedish Police Chief Says Malmo Crime Skyrocketing ... ...Due To Uncontrolled Immigration, No Go Zones" Those with a background in policing will find this interesting, e.i. the empty police station, hand grenades et al. ================================================= http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/18/interview-retired-swedish-police-chief-says-malmo-crime-skyrocketing-due-uncontrolled-immigration-no-go-zones/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 16:46:17 -0400 From: Kindanyume Subject: range day. Campbellford area range day. Campbellford area hey all.. anyone on this list belong to a range in the Campbellford area and might want a guest to help kill some evil paper targets this wkend etc? Just checkin in advance since I might be enslaved to help my old farts at their trailer (damn what we do for our rents eh?) Figure if I'm going to drive that far and be slave labor I might as well try to add some fun to it >:) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 14:56:50 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Germany: Migrants' Rape Epidemic "We Are the Biggest Brothel ... ...in Munich" - Since immigration/refugee/migrant policy is a major one for the government and opposition parties in this election. We could be adopting a similar to E.U. policy after Oct. 19th. These are news stories coming out of Germany, the MSM is simply ignoring. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6527/migrants-rape-germany ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 18, 2015 3:58 pm From: "Dennis Young" Subject: Book Review: A.J. Somerset's Arms explores the rise of gun ... ...culture in North America Review: A.J. Somerset's Arms explores the rise of gun culture in North America CSSA: That group is "Canada's own little NRA," Somerset charges, "eagerly importing the values of the American gun nut." CHRIS NUTTALL-SMITH, Restaurant Critic for The Globe and Mail - Last updated Friday, Sep. 18, 2015 1:26PM EDT http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/books-and-media/book-reviews/review-aj-somersets-arms-explores-the-rise-of-gun-culture-in-north-america/article26423423/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 17:45:03 -0400 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: Taxi driver injured as cab shot- tor star Or maybe their service was actually worse than Blue line in hammytown! LOL On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Larry James Fillo wrote: > Taxi driver injured as cab shot > > Shatter glass hurts cabbie in shooting near Bathurst and Wilson. > > A Beck taxi was hit by gunfire in the area of Bathurst St. and Wilson. > Ave at about 12:15 p.m. > > By: Ramisha Farooq Staff Reporter, Published on Thu Sep 17 2015 > Police are looking for a suspect after a taxi was shot in North York > over the lunch hour. > > The Beck taxi was hit by gunfire in the area of Bathurst St. and Wilson. > Ave at about 12:15 p.m., Const. Victor Kwong told CP24. > > The taxi driver was not shot, Kwong said, but was injured by shattered > glass. > > A male suspect was seen fleeing the scene on Bathurst St. in a black > Honda Civic. > > > The hoplophobes will equate this with the opening of bird season, and > direct the OPP to question anyone with a labrador retriever. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 17:25:17 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Islamist' shot dead after stabbing policewoman" thelocal.de http://www.thelocal.de/20150918/islamist-shot-dead-after-stabbing-policewoman Islamist' shot dead after stabbing policewoman Published: 18 Sep 2015 08:43 GMT+02:00 An Iraqi man who spent time in jail for membership in an Islamist terrorist group was shot dead by German police on Thursday after he stabbed and seriously wounded a policewoman. ... ============================================================== So having the convicted Islamist terrorist w/ties to Al-Qaida was under surveillance, a monitored ankle bracelet, that he had removed, didn't keep anyone safe. Once he decided to remove it and attack, the effective surveillance vanished. Then police responding to emergency calls faced the real danger. The police in Europe are taking the brunt of the immigration policies, presently. (remember the day after the Charlie Hebdo office massacre, another Islamist shot and killed a female, French traffic officer, before he attacked the Kosher grocery store.) The purpose of attacking the police is to show the nation's citizens that, if the police aren't safe then neither are the citizens. Thus to submit or die. Just another tidbit of Euro-news, that you won't see on the MSM here. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 17:45:16 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: " Parents at Strawberry Hill Elementary concerned after ... ...school hit with bullets" http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/shooting-surrey-school-1.3230556 Parents at Strawberry Hill Elementary concerned after school hit with bullets Police say man was shot in back in nearby cul-de-sac, then ran to school. ... ============================================================== So, maybe they should erect "no shooting zone" signs around schools. Of course, that would imply it was legal in the surrounding residential zones. This is tough to solve. Maybe, a law against people shooting at each other. What... you say we have that now. No mention of the RCMP revoking the R.P.A.L. gun licences they issue to gangsters in Surrey and surroundings. I wonder why? Well since the criminal code charge against shooting people is being ignored, how about charging them with a violation of hunting regulations. A charge of firing from a moving vehicle. That'll smarten them up! Gun control, protecting Canadians since... never. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 17:59:10 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: 'Shooting near Jane and Firgrove sends 1 to hospital" Shooting near Jane and Firgrove sends 1 to hospital CBC News Posted: Sep 18, 2015 5:17 PM ET Last Updated: Sep 18, 2015 6:35 PM ET A man is in hospital after being shot in the city's northwest end on Friday afternoon. Emergency personnel were called to the area of Jane Street and Firgrove Crescent � outside the Turf Grassway community housing complex � at 4:13 p.m. where they found a man in his late 20s who had been shot once in the leg. The victim's wounds were not life-threatening, according to investigators at 31 Division. Paramedics say he was conscious and alert when taken to hospital, where he remains in stable condition. There has been no word on potential suspects. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jane-firgrove-grassway-shooting-1.3234781 ==================================================== Couldn't Ms. Jane and Mr. Firgrove submit to mediation and just agree to be friends? I seem to recall Ms. Jane's name coming up on a number of the stories of shootings in Toronto. Maybe, the city should rename her... Calamity Jane. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 18, 2015 9:15 pm From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: A.J. Somerset: How Gun Tech Changed American Culture And ... ... vice versa. Q&A | A.J. Somerset on How Gun Tech Changed American CultureAnd vice versa.     Yasmin Tayag     September 18, 2015 A.J. Somerset loves guns, but he’s not a fan of gun culture. As the former soldier puts it in his new book, Arms: The Culture and Credo of the Gun, pistols come with a “bonus ideological Family Pack, a ready-made identity.” That’s not something Somerset, who took a 15-year hiatus from bearing arms after leaving the army, ever wanted. In Arms, Somerset investigates the evolution of the gun as technology and as totem, exploring how a simple tool transformed into the symbol of a nation and a nation divided. He talked to Inverse about gun culture’s beginnings, how the popularity of Westerns led to radicalization, and the laws that lead to shooting deaths. You describe how you lost the urge to go shooting once you’d left the Army. When did guns go from fun to not fun? The main reason I gave up shooting is simply that I didn’t have money for guns. I’d done most of my shooting at taxpayer expense, or with friends who owned guns. My leaving the army coincided with Bill C-68, Canada’s major gun control law in the mid-1990s, which required that all guns would be registered and created new licensing requirements. You would have to take a safety course to get a licence, and there were new safe storage rules. So it looked as if there were a whole bunch of hassles and additional expenses on top of the price of a gun itself, and I just moved on. But when I did come back to shooting, with all those rules still in place, I found they weren’t really that much of a hassle after all. Returning from your 15-year absence from the world of guns, you find that you no longer fit in. What happened to gun culture in that short span of time? The big change, it seemed to me, was in the rationale for owning a gun. You could own a gun for hunting or target shooting or whatever, but it seemed there was a lot more emphasis on shooting people, on owning guns for protection. That rationale has always been with us, of course. In the 1930s, Thompson submachine guns were advertised to ranchers for protection, for example. But it seemed to be moving to the fore. The incident that gave rise to the book was a video posted online by the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, to drum up membership. It said, essentially, that we needed to change the law to allow us to keep guns handy to shoot criminals. And I thought, this is the Canadian Shooting Sports Association. Since when is shooting people a shooting sport? That gun culture has become synonymous with redneckery is probably unfair to gun lovers like yourself. What’s the crucial distinction that people are missing? Not everyone who owns a gun subscribes to the gun culture, at least as I define it in the book. A culture is a set of shared values, and gun owners are actually fairly diverse. It’s a real mistake to assume they must all share the same values. Obviously, I don’t share the values of the subculture I go after in the book. The big distinction is that what I call the gun culture has essentially elevated the gun into a quasi-religious icon, and placed it alongside Mom, apple pie and the family Bible. For these folks, the gun is central to their identity. I know there are many others like me, who don’t share these views. We did a promo for this book, where my publisher printed a limited run of targets to mail out with review copies, and I shot these targets and signed them. While I was at the range doing that, another guy showed up to sight in his rifles. We got to talking and he asked about the targets – being a promotional thing, they were distinctive – and I was a bit apprehensive spilling the beans because I really wasn’t sure how he would react. You don’t want to get into politics or religion with random strangers for reasons of simple civility. But the first thing he said was, “I think our system works pretty good and I don’t like these guys who want to roll it back. Then something happens, and it’s I-told-you-so.” This is a small random sample, one guy, but I have found this again and again. I was talking to some gun owners in rural Missouri. One of them owned, he said, 30 or 40 guns — he’d lost count. They all thought universal ba ckground checks, which the NRA fiercely opposes, were a good idea. But these people aren’t visible. What we keep hearing are the most radical voices. And it doesn’t help that some of the most vocal anti-gun activists consistently caricature gun owners as rednecks. What made the switch from muskets to rifles such a pivotal moment in the history of America’s gun culture? It was like the invention of the Internet. I don’t think that’s an exaggeration in any way. For four hundred years, the infantryman’s weapon had been a smoothbore musket. He’d gone from matchlocks to wheel-locks to flintlocks but the basic technology was the same, and the limitations of that technology meant that warfare hadn’t changed much either. The big innovation wasn’t the rifle itself. It was the bullet, the Minié ball, which made rifled muskets possible. And once that came along, we went to breech-loaders and then to cartridges and then to repeating rifles. In the space of a single lifetime, the world went from muskets to machine guns, which was like going from a Commodore Vic-20 to the smartphone. It revolutionized warfare. And it revolutionized warfare in a way that resonated with American individualism; in the musket era, the infantryman functioned as part of a mass formation, robotically following commands, but now he was an individual soldier whose initiative and skill would be decisive. It’s important also that these developments came along just as America was gobbling up its frontier and exterminating its native people. If you stage the creation of America as a drama, this is the final act, and the gun is the star. All this stuff went into the pot and boiled down to form the gun culture as we know it. The troublesome faction of gun-toting Americans (and Canadians), it seems, believes they’re all cowboys. What do Westerns like High Noon and Gunfight at the O.K. Corral tell us about the country that created them? There’s always a lot of fretting about violent movies making us violent, but the fact is that movies really only tell us what we already believe. They explain us to ourselves. And it’s no coincidence that the Western, the genre that America created, concerns itself mostly with justifying violence. The Western is all about why you have to carry a gun and why you have to stand your ground. So we see Kevin Costner in Wyatt Earp explaining to Josie Marcus that he won’t back down because Tombstone is his home. In High Noon, Marshal Will Kane has just married a Quaker, and he sets down his gun and flees town to escape the Miller gang – but a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do, so he turns back and faces them down, alone. In the end, his wife saves his life by abandoning her non-violence, and shooting a bad guy in the back. The screenplay forces her to admit that her pacifism is just the foolishness of a silly girl. The code of masculine violence is all important here. Whenever the Western gives us an argument for backing down, it comes from the mouth of a silly girl. “It’s not worth it,” she says, or, “It won’t solve anything.” My favorite example of this is in a very bad B movie, in which the foolish girl asks a reluctant gunfighter over dinner, “Why do men have to carry guns?” Our hero doesn’t even answer. He just says, “Say, how about another slice of that pie?” It’s the ultimate “Don’t worry your pretty little head.” The fact is, she’s right. Our foolish girl is the only one who’s really thinking clearly. But the screenplay creates its own alternate reality. Our hero will not lose the gunfight, or suffer some permanently crippling wound, or whatever. The Western is never a tragedy. And this is the deeply seated thinking: that going armed will not end in tragedy, but in triumph. It’s why Americans think they can arm themselves for protection, in the face of overwhelming evidence that keeping a loaded gun around will end in tears. Nowadays, Westerns aren’t so popular anymore, so in place of cowboys, America idolizes soldiers. But the code remains the same. What errors in the American concept of “self defense” does the Trayvon Martin case illustrate? In the simplest possible terms, stand-your-ground laws have created an incentive to kill. If there are no surviving witnesses, your claim of self-defense is unassailable. Centuries of law had whittled away our justifications for killing. In the English common law, you would be justified only if the person you killed had been committing a capital crime, and as the number of capital crimes fell, so too did the range of justifications. Killing someone in a common fight, where it wasn’t clear who was at fault, could be excused only if you were left with no other option. The problem was, this was defined as a “duty to retreat,” and of course running away is un-American, cowardly, and feminine – just as the Western reminds us. This duty to retreat completely vexed American judges in the late nineteenth century, and they discarded it in favor of the “True Man” doctrine, which said you were justified in killing anyone who attacked you, as long as you were in a place you had some right to be. So stand-your-ground laws have actually been with us for over a century – except, surprisingly, in Florida, which held onto the duty to retreat until 2005. But the whole idea of standing your ground relies on a fantasy: the idea that in a fight, there’s a good guy and a bad guy, and that the good guy is just going about his business when the bad guy shows up and starts doing evil. That’s obvious nonsense. Most self-defence cases are actually dirty little fights between people who have a history, a history that escalates until someone gets killed. This is why the duty to retreat existed in the first place: the law recognized that you couldn’t make an honest claim of self-defence unless you had tried to avoid the whole situation in the first place. This brings us back to Trayvon Martin. The problem here is not so much the verdict as the law under which that verdict was, perhaps, inevitable. The law is dumb. It actually allows you to seek out a fight, kill your opponent, and then claim you were just defending yourself. Nobody, not even the proponents of this law, wants the law to allow this – but the people who back stand-your-ground laws can’t bring themselves to admit something is wrong, because their thinking is trapped in the good-guy-vs.-bad-guy model. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 18, 2015 11:13 pm From: "Dennis Young" Subject: Task force takes aim at firearms Task force takes aim at firearms OPP joint forces provincial weapons enforcement unit task force is in town to present the course By Steph Crosier, Kingston Whig-Standard Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:04:42 EDT PM http://www.thewhig.com/2015/09/17/task-force-takes-aim-at-firearms EXCERPT: 45 experts have come from across the province to share investigative techniques and give presentations. On Thursday, Bridgeman and RCMP civilian weapons expert Nicolas Conway were in the range to allow officers to fire common weapons found on the street. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 00:54:26 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Trump backs gun rights Members of the Canadian firearms community heard that before. September 9, 2004 --------The Conservative Party of Canada remains firmly committed to repealing the current Firearms Act, including its firearms registration provisions, and replacing it with a system of firearms control this is cost effective and respects the rights of Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly. Once again, thank you for taking the time to write. Sincerely, (signed Stephen Harper) Hon. Stephen Harper, P.C. M.P. Leader of the Opposition Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada ------------------------------------------------------- By Dec 19, 2012 Harper’s promise to us all, morphed into -----Gun controls ‘work’. ----"We will not change the basis of this system. -------- http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-s-gun-controls-work-harper-says-in-wake-of-newtown-1.1212246 http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/254211-trump-backs-gun-rights-in-second-policy-paper Trump backs gun rights in second policy paper By Mark Hensch September 18, 2015 GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump released a policy outline on Friday detailing his defense of the Second Amendment and firearms ownership. He also highlighted his possession of a concealed carry permit and firearms that he said were for personal defense. “The Second Amendment to our constitution is clear,” the Republican front-runner writes in the gun rights platform published online. “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed upon — period.” It’s the second policy statement provided by Trump, a political newcomer who has dominated the GOP race over the last month but come under increased scrutiny for his policy knowledge. Trump appeared to confuse the Kurds with Quds, a special forces unit with Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, in a recent interview. During Wednesday night’s debate, he acknowledged he needed to learn more about foreign policy, indicating he would do so by the time he was elected. The first policy platform he provided was on immigration last month. The new statement outlines a three-pronged defense of the Second Amendment during his potential presidency, arguing that America needs greater law enforcement against violent crime, mental healthcare reform and better protections for legal gun ownership going forward. Trump’s outline begins on the premise that President Obama has been soft on violent crime during his two terms in the Oval Office. “We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals,” he said. “The Obama administration’s record on that is abysmal.” “Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control,” Trump said. “Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and then released. This needs to stop.” Self-reliance, the billionaire real estate magnate added, is a vital precaution should law enforcement have its resources stretched too thin. “Our personal protection is ultimately up to us,” Trump said. “It’s just common sense. To make America great again, we’re going to go after criminals and put the law back on the side of the law-abiding.” Trump then charged that the recent spate of mass shootings is the result of America’s failing mental healthcare infrastructure. “Too many politicians have ignored this problem for far too long,” he said. “We can’t allow that to continue.” “We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help,” Trump added. “But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities.” Trump additionally charged he opposes gun and ammunition restrictions and would allow military personnel to carry weapons on bases. “Gun and magazine bans are a total failure,” the outspoken billionaire said. “That’s been proven every time it’s been tried.” “To have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend themselves,” he added. Friday’s policy reveal follows the reality TV star's cancellation of a major campaign appearance in Greenville, S.C., on Friday morning. He's also currently under fire for refusing to correct two supporters’ claims that Obama is a Muslim foreigner during an event in Rochester, N.H., the night before. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 00:59:47 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/17/scientists-ask-obama-to-prosecute-global-warming-skeptics/#ixzz3m6i5gZfj Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics Michael Bastasch 09/17/2015 The science on global warming is settled, so settled that 20 climate scientists are asking President Barack Obama to prosecute people who disagree with them on the science behind man-made global warming. Scientists from several universities and research centers even asked Obama to use the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) to prosecute groups that "have knowingly deceived the American people about the risks of climate change, as a means to forestall America's response to climate change." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 11:00:46 -0400 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: The Fallacy of 'Mr. Harper Could Not Give us Everything ... ...We Want' Sad but true.. I've been saying that for years and it's insane the # of pro gun ppl that argue he could not do it (Esp morons on CGN and GOC! Talk about being completely retarded about it.. He simply has failed miserably to keep his promise when it was perfectly possible to do so. On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Edward Hudson wrote: > > The Fallacy of 'Mr. Harper Could Not Give us Everything We Want' > > "People fail to understand that if Harper had given us gun > owners everything we asked for in the 1st year of being elected, the > remaining non-gunnies would have given him the boot." > > I hear Firearms Act and the concurrent changes to the Criminal Code that > make the mere possession of a firearms illegal. They understand that > this law violates our Right to have arms to defend ourselves. These > people understand the very serious battle that we are fighting. And they > desperately want Mr. Harper to repeal this very unjust law. > > However, I believe that accepting this "he could not do it all' argument > for supporting Mr. Harper now in this election is unsound for two > reasons. > > First, we did not expect Mr. Harper to repeal the Firearms Act when he > was first elected in January 2006 with a minority Government. But we > surely did expect Mr. Harper to repeal this unjust law when we helped > him achieve his "strong, stable, national Conservative majority > government"(1) in May 2011. > > After winning his majority Mr. Harper could have - should have - > repealed the Firearms Act. Yes, Mr. Harper surely would have received > some serious flak from the people who hate firearms ownership. But he > has a majority. And Mr. Harper has used his majority to do exactly what > he wanted to do, and all the Opposition could do was complain. > > Now I realize that neither of these two positions can be "proven". But > we have surely seen how Mr. Harper stuffed all sorts of bills into one > omnibus package and rammed it through Parliament and survived unscathed. > > Secondly, I need to point out that we did not 'ask for everything'. We > made our desires known, and in exchange for our support, money, and > votes Mr. Harper made us a promise. He could have promised less. But Mr. > Harper willingly promised to repeal the Firearms Act. And based on his > promise we worked our buns off through four elections to get him > elected. > > One does not - should not - repay loyalty and hard work with treachery. > > We need a leader who will do what he promises to do. Otherwise we are > selling our souls to the Devil and going to Hell in the process. We need > to get rid of Mr. Harper and elect a truly honourable person to lead the > Conservative Party. > > Sincerely, > > Edward B. Hudson > > Reference: > > 1. Harper: Majority win turns page on uncertainties > "a strong, stable, national Conservative majority government" > > http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-majority-win-turns-page-on-uncertainties-1.991315 ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #908 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)