From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #587 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Wednesday, December 31 2014 Volume 16 : Number 587 In this issue: "Increasing number of firearms on Ottawa streets due to ... "Durham police officer, man exchange gunfire" State of Md. targets gun owners for traffic stops, ... Re: "Ottawa mall shooting is spat between gangers: Cops" Re: UN arms treaty- Digest V16 #580 Chicago Mayor is not opposed to firearms when used to ... More Proof That as Gun Ownership Increases, Violent Crime ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 01:47:24 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Increasing number of firearms on Ottawa streets due to ... ...influx of illegal guns from the U.S., police say" Increasing number of firearms on Ottawa streets due to influx of illegal guns from the U.S., police say Jordan Press, Postmedia News | December 30, 2014 2:16 PM ET Mike Carroccetto / Ottawa CitizenPolice tape outside Polo Ralph Lauren store as police investigate a Boxing Day shooting at the Tanger Outlets off Huntmar Rd. in Kanata (Ottawa) this afternoon, Friday, December 26, 2014. Handguns smuggled from the eastern seaboard of the United States, funnelled through border crossings in eastern Ontario, have contributed to an increasing number of firearms on Ottawa’s streets, police say. Those firearms, some of which come from states such as Virginia and Florida, have wound up more often in the hands of Ottawa gang members who have been involved in shootings twice in the last three days. Those incidents — one on Boxing Day at Tanger Outlets mall in Kanata, another downtown at Bank and Slater streets early Monday morning — helped the capital set a record for annual shootings, 48 in 2014. Tackling that growing problem has shown up in arrests, raids and seizures in the past few months. For instance, in mid-December Ottawa police laid 254 charges against 27 people, seized seven firearms and more than 400 rounds of ammunition as part of a six-month investigation into brazen gun violence in the capital. For criminals, if they want to find a gun, they are more than available on the street for the right price. “There are more guns out there,” said Ottawa police Det. Chris O’Brien, who works on the force’s guns and gangs unit. “The trend in the last 10 years is there has been an increase in the number of guns on the street.” About half of all guns seized by Ottawa police are locally sourced, meaning they have likely been stolen during robberies from local gun owners or dealers. In the past, weapons moved between Montreal and Ottawa, with some Montrealers renting out guns to gang members in Ottawa. Related • Boxing Day shooting at Ottawa mall part of infighting between Crips gang members: police • Ottawa outlet shoppers scramble after shooter injures man on mall’s busiest day of the year The other half of seized weapons are “foreign-sourced,” meaning they are smuggled across the border. According to the most recent data from the Ontario Provincial Police, foreign-sourced guns made up the majority of “crime guns” seized by officers. The 2011 numbers showed that 60 per cent of guns used in crimes were smuggled across the U.S. border, 20 per cent were locally sourced, while the remaining 20 per cent couldn’t be traced. Ottawa’s foreign-sourced guns usually arrive from American states such as Florida, Virginia or Georgia, said O’Brien. They don’t usually come from New York State given that state’s stricter gun laws, he said. Often, their point of entry is around Cornwall, including the Akwesasne Mohawk Territory, O’Brien said. The Canada Border Services Agency in the past year has increased its focus on stopping firearms from illegally entering the country: The agency’s most recent annual performance report noted that the number of CBSA-led firearm prosecutions more than doubled in the past fiscal year from the average of the preceding three years. It is often handguns that gang members use when they open fire, but they are not cheap. A handgun that sells in the U.S. for about $75 can sell on the black market in Canada for $1,500 to $3,000 for a more expensive handgun such as a nine millimetre, but the price also based on who is buying and who is selling. Handguns, however, have become required equipment for gang members to protect their turf or expand their holdings. Once one drug dealer or gang members starts carrying a weapon, others do the same so they don’t cede power to others, O’Brien said. The weapons of choice in Ottawa are nine-millimetre and .40-calibre handguns, the latter of which was used in the Boxing Day shooting at Tangers Outlets between rival members of the Crips gang. ================================================================ An increase in the number of guns on the street in the last 10 years. Well, that says it all. Point of entry "Akwesasne Mohawk Territory". Well, thank goodness it's not Canadian territory! Rule of law, you know. On the Ont. reserves, it's AR-15s/AK47s, if you recall previous stories. 9mm/40 cal. pistols are just "trade" guns. In other words $2 Billion in "gun control" and gangs and guns have increased. Zero effect, no less than zero effect, positive correlation with an increase. If it wasn't for the number of handguns seized from peaceful Americans being searched at the border... what "success" could C-68 be pointed to? When the day comes they go after criminals instead of inanimate objects, as per Common-Law tradition, a lot of police, prosecutors and judges will have to find other real jobs. Canada will be a far safer place. Can't do that as it would discriminate against bad people. Oddly,"gun control" is legal discrimination against good people. In the meantime, back in High River... And the Montague family home remains under threat of confiscation. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 02:25:11 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Durham police officer, man exchange gunfire" Durham police officer, man exchange gunfire Posted December 26 Durham, N.C. — A Durham police officer dove for cover Thursday night after a man walked up and began shooting at him, police said Friday. The incident happened about 10 p.m. on Lakeland Street, just north of Truman Street. Police said Officer J.T. West was sitting in his patrol car, working on a report, when he saw two men approaching his car from behind. As West got out of the car to speak to them, one of the men pulled out a gun and began firing, police said. The man fired six shots at West, striking the patrol car once. West fired two rounds in return. Police said it wasn't known if West wounded either of the men. West injured his wrist when he dove behind a staircase at a vacant apartment building at 1414 Lakeland St. He was treated at a nearby hospital and released. Police said West and the men, who ran from the scene, never exchanged words. Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 919-683-12 Read more at http://www.wral.com/durham-police-officer-man-exchange-gunfire/14307484/#AaqDpmbfEgexCTgp.99 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 07:16:23 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: State of Md. targets gun owners for traffic stops, ... ...searches... Stories pile up but police say searches are legal An otherwise law-abiding citizen can get arrested here. It's just a waste of officer time and resources. The police should let those people go, Gun owner licensing provides a method for the state to track its innocent. Mr. Harper uses his Bill C-68's licensing provisions to track innocent Canadians. Why doesn't Mr. Harper use logic and track Canada's violent offenders instead? Repeal Bill C-68 as you promised, Mr. Harper. "Let our people go!" Do not work, support, fund or vote for this Harper con govt. Yours in Tyranny, Joe Gingrich Nipawin http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/30/gun-owners-fear-maryland-cops-target-them-for-traf/ REPORT: State targets gun owners for traffic stops, searches... Stories pile up but police say searches are legal By Kelly Riddell - The Washington Times - Tuesday, December 30, 2014 A year ago this New Year’s Eve, John Filippidis of Florida was driving south with his family on Interstate 95 when the Maryland Transportation Authority Police pulled over his black Ford Expedition and proceeded to raid it while his twins, wife and daughter looked on — separated in the back seats of different police cruisers. The officers were searching for Mr. Filippidis‘ Florida-licensed, palm-size Kel-Tec .38 semi-automatic handgun, which he left at home locked in his safe. (Maryland does not recognize handgun permits issued by other states.) When the search turned up nothing, Mr. Filippidis, 51, was allowed to go and was issued only a speeding warning. The incident gained national attention. Mr. Filippidis went on multiple radio programs and described in detail how scared and outraged he and his family were. He wondered: How did the police know he was licensed for concealed carry, and what right did they have to search through his personal items on the side of the busy interstate filled with holiday travelers on that 10-degree day? “My wife’s hysterical, shaking and crying,” Mr. Filippidis recalled in an interview with The Washington Times. “I don’t have a criminal record. I own a business. I’m a family man, and I tried to explain that to [the officer]. But he had a bad attitude, didn’t want to hear my story. He just wanted to find that gun and take me away from my family. That was his goal, but he couldn’t do it, because I didn’t have a gun, like I told him.” Mr. Filippidis‘ case earned the support of Second Amendment advocates and subsequent apologies from the MDTA. But an internal police review concluded his stop and search were lawful and did not violate police protocols. Those findings, however, have not satisfied other out-of-state gun owners, who worry that they, too, have been targeted for minor traffic stops in Maryland because they have concealed weapons permits. Their stories are accumulating. John Tonnesen IV of Lake Worth, Florida, was pulled over and arrested after a search of his work truck — by the same officer who stopped Mr. Filippidis — turned up his .45-caliber Ruger, licensed in the state of Florida. He doesn’t believe the stop was coincidental. “It was unloaded and stuffed into a bag far from me,” Mr. Tonnesen told The Times. “There’s scanners in Maryland that scan every tag, and Florida is one of their target vehicles. They’ll find whatever reason they can to pull you over.” MDTA denies it targets out-of-state gun owners and noted the review of Mr. Fillipides earlier traffic stop concluded the officers did nothing wrong. “The MDTA Police conducted a review of the traffic stop and have concluded that the stop and subsequent search of the vehicle were justified,” spokesman Jonathan Green wrote in an emailed statement. “The investigation did not reveal any violations of law or agency policy.” The officer who stopped both gun owners is “assigned to the I-95 corridor where there is a large volume of out of state travelers,” Mr. Green said. Baltimore-based criminal defense lawyer Paul Kramer says these type of stops and searches happen far too often in Maryland and are a waste of taxpayer money. Mr. Kramer represented a Pennsylvania security officer who was pulled over in the state for speeding. The Maryland officer asked Mr. Kramer’s client whether he had a gun in the car, and once the man acknowledged he did, the officer arrested him for having the gun and the cartridge in the same locked container — not separated, as per Maryland law. “You think that Maryland would honor legitimate people with guns rather than charging people who are legitimately carrying but doing it incorrectly,” said Mr. Kramer, who was former deputy U.S. attorney for Maryland. “I would think that the police would want to take the time to go after those people who don’t have a legitimate right to have a gun rather than locking up people who have a valid license. “An otherwise law-abiding citizen can get arrested here. It’s just a waste of officer time and resources. The police should let those people go,” he said. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 08:52:16 -0500 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: "Ottawa mall shooting is spat between gangers: Cops" lmao priceless Larry On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Larry James Fillo wrote: > -SunnewsTV > > http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2014/12/20141227-134004.html > > People wait to be questioned by Ottawa police in a taped off area at > Tangar Outlets Mall where a shooting occurred in Ottawa on Friday, Dec. > 26, 2014. > > Credits: MATTHEW USHERWOOD/OTTAWA SUN/QMI AGENCY > > DOUG HEMPSTEAD | QMI AGENCY > > OTTAWA - Shoppers returned to the Tanger Outlets Mall outside Ottawa > Saturday as police work to make more arrests in the Boxing Day shooting > they believe was between members of the same gang. > "We're going to stay on it and we will have results," Insp. Chris > Renwick said Saturday. > > Police arrested two men, allegedly affiliated with the Crips street > gang, at the scene on Friday afternoon. > > The men, believed to be in their 20s, were held for several hours, > questioned and released without charge. Police said they are known to > Guns and Gangs investigators. > > Staff Sgt. Ken Bryden said the men remain persons of interest. > > Police said the victim of the brazen, 3:30 p.m. shooting -- also a young > man -- is not being much help to investigators and refusing to provide > much detail. > > In fact, he cursed at police in the back of the ambulance when they > grilled him for information. > > Police said they are certain the gunplay wasn't random, but rather a > targeted attack in which the men all knew each other. > > The victim, who is expected to make a full recovery, is known to police. > The young man has been released from hospital, nursing a bullet hole in > his foot. > > Bryden said he is also affiliated with the Crips. > > Cops believe the shooter aimed for the foot or lower body on purpose. > > At least two officers were walking the beat at the shopping centre on > Saturday. > > Blood was still visible near the entrance to the Polo Ralph Lauren > store, where the victim waited Friday to be treated by paramedics. > > Tanger Outlets is only two blocks away from Ottawa police's west-end > headquarters, making the broad daylight shooting in full view of > hundreds of shoppers all the more brazen. > > It was the city's record-breaking 46th shooting of the year -- double > the number from 2011 and 16 more than last year. > > Altogether, Bryden said there were five people involved -- the victim, > the two people released and two others who remain at large. > > Guns and Gangs investigators believe one of the men at large pulled the > trigger of the .40 caliber handgun. > > A shell casing was found and has been sent for analysis. > > Police said a handgun like that is worth $3,000 to $5,000 on the street > in Ottawa, so they don't think it will be discarded. >===================================================================== > What? A spat between gangs. Well, like that's a relief. Why bother to > even report it. > > Ottawa's record breaking 46th shooting of the year!!! Wow, well break > out the champagne. > > (I'd say invite all the Members of Parliament who support gun control, > but they've already attended one of Ottawa's 46 shootings this year.) > > What better example of "successful "gun control" could you find? I > mean, really. > > We're told the shooters are "known to Guns and Gangs investigators." > > Isn't that a little suspicious? Maybe they're really "Guns for Gangs > investigators."? I mean they keep showing up at all these shootings. > People are gonna wonder. > > So these "Crips" must have a firearms Restricted Possession Acquistion > License, right? > > And of course, someone must have issued them an Authorization to > Transport, right? > > "So, who issues those in Ontario?" Asked Inspector Sherlock Holmes. > > "If the address on that matches the address on the R.P.A.L. holders, > bingo."- he exclaimed. > > .... ADVENTURES IN (gun control) WONDERLAND will continue after this > message. > > "$3,000 to $5,000 on the street for a .40 cal pistol... outrageous, who > can afford that? > > I mean you'd have to be a drug dealer or somethin' ! > > Heck, there are family's in the tribal areas of Pakistan who can turn > those out for a 20th of that price. And with a Temp. Foreign Worker > Program application, your gang can import such hard to find skilled > workers and lower operating costs. > > Apply today by calling the 1-800-BIG-GUNS number flashing across the > bottom of your TV screen" > > P.S.(my government issued satire license expires at the end of the year, > so I'm making the best of it.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 08:55:53 -0500 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: UN arms treaty- Digest V16 #580 Sadly I'd have to agree w/you Buz.. the idea of the UN is good in theory.. but in practice esp now.. well UGH On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Kindanyume wrote: > > UN is a farce at best on this issue.. /facepalm > > [Mod Note: The UN has been a farce on all fronts for a couple decades now. > BUZ] > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, December 31, 2014 9:38 am From: "Dennis Young" Subject: Chicago Mayor is not opposed to firearms when used to ... ...protect him and his family. Chicago's Anti-Gun Mayor Called Out For The Sign Posted In Front Of His Home Mayors are not among the public figures typically afforded such protection. http://www.westernjournalism.com/chicagos-anti-gun-mayor-called-sign-posted-front-home/#my5l2KfAOLpQW3OA.97 Although he is affiliated with a nationwide network of mayors dedicated to implementing strict gun control measures on law-abiding citizens, recent reports indicate Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel is not opposed to firearms when used to protect him and his family. Earlier this month, Emanuel's son, Zach, was mugged just outside of the prominent Democrat's home. In response, reports indicate Chicago police were on the scene in a fraction of the time such calls generally take to complete. Even on a typical day, documents show multiple officers are assigned to guard Emanuel's home around the clock. A local Fox affiliate noticed that even this level of armed protection is apparently not sufficient for Barack Obama's former chief of staff. WFLD captured a sign posted in front of the residence after the recent attack warning that the premises are off-limits and being protected by the U.S. Secret Service. Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/chicagos-anti-gun-mayor-called-sign-posted-front-home/#tbUc3BhrcKqmlBhR.99 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, December 31, 2014 9:46 am From: "Dennis Young" Subject: More Proof That as Gun Ownership Increases, Violent Crime ... ...Decreases More Proof That as Gun Ownership Increases, Violent Crime Decreases Written by Bob Adelmann - Tuesday, 30 December 2014 http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/19805-more-proof-that-as-gun-ownership-increases-violent-crime-decreases Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe raised the ire of conservatives on Monday by proposing a package of gun control measures for the upcoming General Assembly. What irritated them most was that the governor claimed that these measures are designed to "keep people safe" from criminals. McAuliffe might better spend his time perusing the latest update from John Lott, showing that people are keeping themselves safe from criminals by obtaining their concealed carry permits. Lott, the author of More Guns, Less Crime noted in a July 9 report for Crime Prevention Research Center that the number of citizens now permitted to carry concealed exceeds 11 million, up from eight million just three years ago. And even that number may be far too conservative: The number of concealed carry permit holders is likely much higher than 11.1 million because numbers are not available for all states that issue permits, such as New York. Additionally, four states and the majority of Montana do not require that residents have a concealed handgun permit to carry within the state so [that] number . is not recorded. That translates into nearly one in every twenty Americans licensed to carry. It also translates, according to Lott, into a continuing fall in the rates of murder and violent crime: a 22 percent decline just since 2007, a period of time, according to Lott, that the percentage of people licensed to carry has increased by an astonishing 130 percent. One conclusion based on this data is that the more people who are allowed to carry, the lower the rate of violent crime. Lott's Crime Prevention Research Center also noted that states that don't require a permit have much lower crime rates than those states that have the lowest permit rates. It noted too that "the murder and violent crime rates are also lower in the 25 states with the highest permit rates compared to the rest of the US." The statistics are impressive regarding violent criminals, according to thre report: When you allow people to carry concealed handguns, you see changes in the behavior of criminals. Some criminals stop committing crimes, others move on to crimes in which they don't come into contact with victims.. Others actually move to areas where they have less fear of being confronted by armed victims. Lott, a statistician, also concluded that "each one percentage point increase in the adult population holding permits is roughly associated with a 1.4 percent drop in the murder rate." A search of public records reveals the numbers behind Lott's study. For instance, the total crime rate per 100,000 people in the United States in the year 2001 was 4,162, the high-water mark of the 21st century. It has steadily declined every year since, and now stands at 3,098 per 100,000, a drop of 25 percent in a little over a decade. The results of a recent Pew Research study reveal the sea change in attitude toward guns that underlies the rise in permits and the consequent fall in violent crime. In every demographic except one (liberal Democrats), Pew reported the support for gun rights is higher than it's been in decades, with 52 percent of Americans favoring the Second Amendment compared to 46 percent who favor more restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms. Gallup also measured the same attitude shift in its study, reporting that "53 percent of Americans now believe that having guns at home makes them safer, nearly double the percentage reporting the same belief 14 years ago." This shift had a starting point: Florida, in 1987, passed the first "shall issue" concealed carry law, requiring local sheriffs to issue permits to honest and sane Floridians. Today there are 41 states that have enacted similar laws, while Arizona, Vermont, Wyoming, and Alaska do not even require them. Unmentioned in the Crime Prevention Research Center's report is the growth of a cottage industry that provides legal services to those unfortunate enough to have to use a firearm to defend themselves. One of the most prominent is the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network that began in 2008 with a single member and now boasts more than 8,000. Twenty-five percent of every member's dues goes into its legal defense fund which, according to founder Marty Hayes, We reserve exclusively for the legal defense of Network members.. It all starts with a phone call, telling us that you have been involved in an incident and need immediate assistance. Since we do not at that time know the particulars of the incident, on your word alone and upon request from you or your attorney we will forward up to $10,000 to the attorney of your choice to start your legal representation. If you don't yet have an attorney, we will get to work immediately to help you find one. Also mentioned in the report is that once armed, a citizen is even less likely to be involved in one of those "incidents." In Florida, for example, between October 1, 1987 and May 31, 2014, more than 2.6 million permits have been issued, while just 168 of them have been revoked for any type of firearms violation (most of them for accidentally carrying concealed into a "gun free" zone). In the last 77 months, reports Lott, just four permits have been revoked there. This is likely because once an individual decides to obtain his permit and then makes the additional decision to carry, he becomes a more responsible citizen. As Marty Hayes explains, "A Network member is probably the least likely gun owner to be involved in a shooting or otherwise use deadly force." This reflects the higher degree of responsibility involved in carrying concealed, which is encouraged and reinforced by Hayes' Network: "A 235-page book plus an informative series of eight educational DVDs is given to each new member . [which] ensure that your understanding of [the] use of force in self-defense is first class." Not only are more and more states supporting the issue of concealed carry permits, and not only are more and more citizens taking advantage of the opportunity to exercise their rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment, but more and more of those who now carry daily are taking that new responsibility seriously. It's no wonder criminals are finding other work. A graduate of an Ivy League school and a former investment advisor, Bob is a regular contributor to The New American magazine and blogs frequently at www.LightFromTheRight.com, primarily on economics and politics. 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