From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #531 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, November 24 2014 Volume 16 : Number 531 In this issue: CBC - Bruce Montague firearms case won't be heard by Supreme ... The Most Dangerous Cities in America British Police Call On Nation To 'Save a Life, Surrender ... Martin Luther quote Australia Senate Inquiry Shows Firearms Policy Advice Failure Re: Bruce Montague for Independent MP Regarding: "A typical day in Fort McMurray" Book Review - WHY WE LOST by General Daniel P. Bolger CBC - Conservatives' gun bill, C-42, fails to impress gun owners Missing nukes Peter MacKay's views on Bill C-68, the Firearms Act 93 Percent of Blacks Are Killed by Blacks "Ted Cruz praises Stephen Harper's response to terror ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, November 22, 2014 9:45 am From: "Dennis Young" Subject: CBC - Bruce Montague firearms case won't be heard by Supreme ... ...Court of Canada CBC - Bruce Montague firearms case won't be heard by Supreme Court of Canada Montague claimed gun seizure sought by Crown amounted to cruel and unusual punishment under the Charter The Canadian Press Posted: Nov 21, 2014 2:03 PM ET| Last Updated: Nov 21, 2014 2:03 PM ET http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/bruce-montague-firearms-case-won-t-be-heard-by-supreme-court-of-canada-1.2844859 A northwestern Ontario man has lost his bid to have Canada's highest court hear his appeal over the forfeiture of hundreds of firearms he once owned. The Supreme Court of Canada says it won't hear the case of Bruce Montague, a former firearms dealer and pro-gun activist from the Dryden area. He was charged with several firearms offences in 2005 after he refused to obtain a licence to own and sell weapons as an act of protest against gun laws at the time. In 2004, police seized more than 200 firearms from Montague - some had been modified into automatics and others had their serial numbers removed. Police also seized accessories worth upwards of $100,000, along with more than 20,000 rounds of ammunition. The items had been held by police since then and the Crown later filed a forfeiture order to take possession of the items for good. Montague took his case to the Ontario Court of Appeal, but it rejected his argument that the seizure sought by the Crown amounted to cruel and unusual punishment under the Charter. Montague then sought to appeal the ruling at the Supreme Court of Canada, but that effort was dismissed on Thursday. ---------------------- TROY MEDIA - Canadian Supreme Court condones abuse of power It's dangerous, and expensive, to stand up against the government By Derek James From, Staff lawyer, The Canadian Constitution Foundation dfrom@theccf.ca http://marketplace.troymedia.com/2014/11/21/canadian-supreme-court-condones-abuse-of-power/ CANADIAN CONSTITUTION FOUNDATION PRESS RELEASE NOVEMBER 20 2014 Ottawa, ON - The Supreme Court of Canada today denied leave to appeal to Bruce and Donna Montague in a case involving a mandatory sentencing provision of the Criminal Code. The law requires the forfeiture of a firearm upon conviction for any offence relating to the firearm, even if the offence involves nothing more than un-done paperwork. READ THE REST: http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=99ddf17099e8b3ba076a7d32b&id=e6b439bf0a ------------------------------ Date: Sat, November 22, 2014 10:16 am From: "Dennis Young" Subject: The Most Dangerous Cities in America The Most Dangerous Cities in America By Thomas C. Frohlich, Alexander Kent and Alexander E.M. Hess - November 11, 2014 5:37 am EST Read more: The Most Dangerous Cities in America - 24/7 Wall St. http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/11/11/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-america-4/#ixzz3JoZQtI7a Follow us: @247wallst on Twitter | 247wallst on Facebook ------------------------------ Date: Sat, November 22, 2014 10:33 am From: "Dennis Young" Subject: British Police Call On Nation To 'Save a Life, Surrender ... ...Your Knife' EXCERPT FROM TEAM CSSA E-NEWS - NOVEMBER 20, 2014 http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/e-news.html BRITISH POLICE CALL ON NATION TO 'SAVE A LIFE, SURRENDER YOUR KNIFE' AS 'KNIFE VIOLENCE' CONTINUES - November 14, 2014 12:48 pm Again, we remind our readers outside of the UK, that this is not satire, just another example of the government claiming they are here to protect us from ourselves. http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/11/british-police-calling-for-knife-ban/# The news out of the United Kingdom almost reads like a satire piece from The Onion. But as strange as it may sound to people around the world, and especially in the United States, the British police push to ban knives is no joke. The new "Save a Life - Surrender Your Knife" program is in full swing and police are telling us that they have joined forces with an already growing trend in the United Kingdom to ban "pointy" knives. Lancashire Police tell us that an "amnesty" program began at the end of August, and "more than 800 knives have been handed in across the county - including swords, machetes and commando knives." "The amnesty was extended for a further week owing to its success," Lancashire Police representatives explained. The Lancashire department explains that their "officers have now given their backing to a national initiative designed to raise awareness of knife crime and encourage the surrender of dangerous weapons." In spite of the amnesty ending this week, police tell us that "people can continue to hand in any knife at any police station with a front counter as well being able to drop them into the designated bins." Those bins will be in cities all over the U.K. as this call for people to turn in pointed knives continues. "We are keen to raise awareness of the devastating impact of knife crime and to reduce the number of families affected so we have decided to keep the knife bins indefinitely," Detective Chief Inspector Steve Dowson said. "While projects encouraging the surrender of knives are not a single solution to violence, they have an important role to play in inspiring communities to get behind education and preventative measures," he added. "Such campaigns show a desire to address local concerns and Lancashire Police is keen to throw our weight behind them in support. "We've been delighted with the response so far, but our communities have told us that they want an end to knife crime and that they want to work with us to make that happen." A call from the British Medical Journal was published several years ago, arguing that "many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon," according to the BBC. Researchers "consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen. None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed." Again, we remind our readers outside of the UK, that this is not satire, just another example of the government claiming they are here to protect us from ourselves. In the UK, the rate of knife violence is approximately one in every 374 people victimized, compared with a rate of one in 750 people victimized by gun violence in the United States. -------------------- READ THE REST OF TEAM CSSA E-NEWS - NOVEMBER 20, 2014 Important Updates, Progress reports, News, Commentary, and Events http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/e-news.html It's easy to get our E-News Bulletins, and it's free. To be added to our E-News email list, simply send a blank email to cssa-cila-e-news-subscribe@mail.cssa-cila.org or subscribe on the E-News web page here: http://mail.cssa-cila.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cssa-cila-e-news (Your email address will not be used for anything else.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:59:25 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Martin Luther quote Peace, If Possible, Truth At All Costs. - Martin Luther ------------------------------ Date: Sun, November 23, 2014 8:02 am From: "Dennis Young" Subject: Australia Senate Inquiry Shows Firearms Policy Advice Failure From: wishlist-bounces@lists.internode.on.net Sent: November-22-14 10:57 PM To: wishlist@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Wishlist] Media Release: Senate Inquiry Shows Policy Advice Failure Media Release 23 November 2014 - Senate Inquiry Shows Policy Advice Failure The Parliament of Australia Senate Inquiry into gun-related violence has revealed serious shortcomings in bureaucrats’ ability to provide sound policy advice about firearms, say the International Coalition for Women in Shooting and Hunting (WiSH). “For decades, Australia’s firearms management policies have been driven by secretive working groups filled with bureaucrats, and those bureaucrats’ advice to politicians has almost always escaped proper scrutiny,” said WiSH Chair Dr Samara McPhedran. “For the first time ever, some of those government agencies who provide advice about firearms have been put under parliamentary scrutiny by the Senate Inquiry, and the results are truly alarming.” “The Inquiry has exposed that a great deal of the advice given to legislators about firearms management is based on nothing more than shoddy data, personal opinions, and unfounded ideology.” “For years, the firearms community has raised concerns about the lack of transparency surrounding decisions to do with firearms management, and about how poor advice from unaccountable bureaucrats has been uncritically accepted by political decision-makers.”  “It seems those concerns were very well founded.” “While there are many hard-working and knowledgeable public servants who provide good advice, when it comes to firearms it seems they have been shouted down by an ill-informed handful who have long exerted undue sway over policy decisions.” “What remains to be seen is whether the Inquiry will recommend that bureaucrats’ advice about firearms, including advice from law enforcement and intelligence gathering agencies, should be subject to greater contestability in the future,” said Dr McPhedran. Transcripts from Public Hearings can be accessed at: http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Legal_and_Constitutional_Affairs/Illicit_firearms/Public_Hearings A submission to the Senate Inquiry into the ability of Australian law enforcement authorities to eliminate gun-related violence in the community Made by the International Coalition for Women in Shooting and Hunting (WiSH) August http://www.ic-wish.org/WiSH%20Submission%20Senate%202014.pdf Contact: Dr Samara McPhedran - 0415 963 189 Chair, International Coalition for Women in Shooting and Hunting (WiSH) www.ic-wish.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:01:48 -0500 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: Bruce Montague for Independent MP from a friend that is not on the digest: noble idea (BM in office) but I would say you missed something in the 'what its about' category; its largely about what 'you' want, what other members want, and a strategy of winning, often involving compromise, and what decisions are actually offered in what timeframe ie. x wants freedom from oppressive and useless laws, team C wants that to a minimal degree and is just fine without dealing with it too so isn't really motivated by x's position, so leverage is reqd thus x presents facts -, -, and - to party member L2, L3 who say 'you wouldn't would you?', then say 'we are here to help you' (aka 'well what would keep you quiet?') and the game resumes, team C has to also play ball with team L and team N etc so ya, BM may just not be up for it, and I would hate to see him buckle under more pressure than what he has already endured he is ideal if a lengthy profile/public image was built and had many human resources to rely heavily on through his term, but I cannot imagine what he has gone through and his actions thus far in life show he is not about deceit and game playing but about honesty and dialogue which don't fit well on the hill the nation needs education on his plight and specifically what it means to ALL Canadians though - ppl don't give a shit unless they can relate to something, feel vulnerable to it imho On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Bruce Montague wrote: > I don't really know how to repond to this. Clive and other have been > trying to get me to run as an MP for quite a few years now, but I > don't think I'm cut out for the job. I'm not sure if the idea of me > sitting in the house of parliament makes me laugh or puke? > > Although I think I have the principles to make a good MP I don't have the > political savvy to survive this type of game. I'm also very disinfanchized > in our political system and no longer feel that it is even possible to fix > it anymore! Some day the "bubble will burst" and we'll get a chance to > start > this whole mess over again. Sorry to sound so cynical, but that's what > 10 years of being tortured by our own government can do to you. > > Short answer is NO, I have no plans on running for MP. > > Yours in Liberty, > Bruce. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:09:42 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Regarding: "A typical day in Fort McMurray" Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 00:24:21 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "A typical day in Fort McMurray" Would the RCMP do to Fort McMurray what they did to High River? Not likely. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- It's "likely" that after the federal election we'll see Canadian Gun-Grabbing "Round Two". Do you believe Harper, Trudeau, May and Mulcair will stop stealing our guns? Yours in Tyranny, Joe Gingrich White Fox ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:45:42 -0800 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: Book Review - WHY WE LOST by General Daniel P. Bolger "By 2014, with the US fleeing both Iraq and Afghanistan with its red-white-and-blue tail between its legs, Gen. Bolger writes: "Behind it all, the old question hovered, rarely asked aloud: Who was the enemy? Al-Qaeda. The Taliban. The green-on-blue turncoats. Karzai. The Pashtuns. The Pakistanis. Everyone. It was past time to go." "And that was the problem. Everyone WAS the enemy. When you invade and occupy someone else's country, everybody in that country, plus anyone else on earth with a functioning conscience, an active heart and mind, and a shred of integrity, decides that YOU are the enemy. "We have met the enemy and he is us." "But ignorance as an excuse can only get you so far. The bottom line is that these young American men and women fought, killed, and died for a monstrous lie. That is the real reason Why We Lost. "Gen. Bolger's book takes the official version of 9/11 as axiomatic. It completely ignores the real elephant in the living room: the Zionist role in US mideast policy in general and in 9/11 and the 9/11 wars in particular. Most VT readers will find these lacunae annoying. "But despite its inevitable shortcomings, Why We Lost is a terrific (though painful) read. More importantly, it could be a substantial force for good in the world. By facing up to a fair bit of a very unpleasant reality, General Daniel P. Bolger has courageously opened the door for a critical re-examination of America's most recent - and perhaps most disastrous - wars. By reading his book, heeding his words, and ultimately facing the full truth about this horrendous chapter in our history - including the 9/11 big lie that launched the whole sorry episode - Americans may still have a chance to heal and save their country." http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/22/bolger/ 45clive ------------------------------ Date: Sun, November 23, 2014 1:59 pm From: "Dennis Young" Subject: CBC - Conservatives' gun bill, C-42, fails to impress gun owners CBC - Conservatives' gun bill, C-42, fails to impress gun owners Some gun owners feel taken for granted as firearms bill falls short of expectations By Evan Dyer, CBC Last Updated: Nov 23, 2014 5:00 AM ET - 1149 comments http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-gun-bill-c-42-fails-to-impress-gun-owners-1.2837842 To the Coalition for Gun Control, the Conservative government's bill to overhaul Canada's gun licensing rules is more evidence that the party panders to gun owners. "The gun lobby has bragged about its access to the prime minister, and this is the latest evidence of their influence," it says in a recent statement. But, in fact, the good feelings between gun owners and the Conservative Party are being tested by Bill C-42, the common sense firearms licensing act, which many say falls far short of what they had hoped for. Bill C-42 was scheduled to be debated on Oct. 22, the day that Michael Zehaf-Bibeau stormed Parliament. When Parliament returned, Bill C-42 seemed to have disappeared from the agenda. Inquiries to Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney and to government House leader Peter Van Loan went unanswered. Tony Bernardo, president of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association and a close collaborator of the government on firearms legislation, says the bill is still alive and will return. "After the shooting, the government had several terrorism-related bills they needed to move urgently on," he says. "You can't do everything, and something had to give. It's a question of priorities." But a bigger issue for the government may be the consensus among people in the shooting sports that C-42 is better than nothing, but not much. And some party stalwarts say they're starting to feel taken for granted. Dennis Young is a former RCMP officer who was the Reform Party's regional co-ordinator for Manitoba and Saskatchewan in the 1990s and then spent 13 years in Ottawa as an aide to Conservative MP Gary Brietkreuz. Recently, when called by a Conservative fundraiser at his home in Airdrie, Alta., Young told him not to bother calling back until the public safety minister responded to his letter about Bill C-42. Young said he was "miffed" that after all his work for the Conservatives, he had received no real answer to his questions. "It all leaves us feeling a bit like we're just being used for fundraising," he said. "If they have that attitude they're going to be disappointed. People now want to see some action on Stephen Harper's promise from 2002, which he made again in the 2004 election, to repeal Bill C-68." Bill C-68 is the 1995 legislation that now forms the basis of Canadian firearms law. CONSERVATIVES REFORMS JUST 'TINKERING' Bill C-42 contains some changes to rules that put law-abiding gun-owners at risk of serious criminal charges over omissions in paperwork. Those changes are welcome, said James Brake, operations manager at a Prince Albert gun store and president of the Prince Albert Pistol and Rifle Club. But that's as far as it goes. "It doesn't address the core concerns. It's addressing poll-watchers who are weighing just how much they have to give in order to get a certain number of votes." Brake, who is originally from Florida, said he appreciates "the good things about Canadian laws," such as the system of checks to keep people with mental problems from acquiring guns. But he said the rules penalize law-abiding people and complicate his job with red tape that doesn't make people safer. And he said the Conservatives are doing little to change that picture. "I do believe they're the best of the worst," he said. "That's about it." BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR Bernardo acknowledges he's heard more anti-Conservative sentiments lately from shooters and hunters, but says "they should be careful what they wish for." "The firearms community has been disappointed with the Harper government. It could have been done a lot better. On the other hand, this is a step forward. As long as they're moving forward, we have to look at the alternatives." Bernardo said Justin Trudeau has been "more slippery than an oiled eel" on the topic, and gun owners should remember that "the Liberals' track record is not good." He said he's confident most of his group's members will still vote Conservative. "This is probably the last government bill on this before the election, but we hope to see more after that." NOT FEELING THE LOVE But the country's biggest gun owners' group is less optimistic. Sheldon Clare is president of the National Firearms Association, with 75,000 members across Canada. "In my view, this is neither about common sense, nor even really much about firearms licensing. It's more about giving the appearance of doing something when, in fact, nothing much is being done." Clare said the Conservatives have been careful to be on the side of gun owners when there's controversy, such as when the RCMP entered homes in High River, Alta., following floods and seized hundreds of legally held guns without a court order or the owners' permission. But Clare said law-making is where the rubber hits the road, and the Conservatives' legislation has not matched the rhetoric. "There's been a lot of lip service paid," said Clare. "But this part of the base - and they certainly seem to think we are part of their base and that we have no other place to go - I'd really like to remind them how firearms owners stayed home in droves after Kim Campbell brought in Bill C-17. There was a penalty to be paid by Conservatives for turning their back on firearms owners." "I would say firearms owners right now aren't really feeling the love." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:24:48 -0800 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: Missing nukes In August 2007, at least 6 nuclear warheads were stolen from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota. The moment they were loaded, they disappeared from America's nuclear inventory, "location unknown," something that is not supposed to happen. There is no possible "misinterpretation" of orders, no mistake, no "wrong label" issue. These weapons were stolen, pure and simple. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/09/chatter-obama-sought-arrest-of-bush-and-cheney-for-911-treason/ 45clive ------------------------------ Date: Sun, November 23, 2014 5:38 pm From: "Dennis Young" Subject: Peter MacKay's views on Bill C-68, the Firearms Act Peter MacKay on December 9, 1997: "Please be assured that the Progressive Conservative Party's opinion about Bill C-68 has not changed: this legislation must be repealed as it does not effectively address the problems of crimes committed with firearms." See copy of his letter attached. [Mod Note: A .PDF file was deleted, as it would not be processed through the CFD. If there is a link to the .PDF file, please post that. BUZ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:46:35 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: 93 Percent of Blacks Are Killed by Blacks http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/giuliani-ferguson-cop-black/2014/11/23/id/609109/?ns_mail_uid=740244&ns_mail_job=1596698_11232014&promo_code=pilcnhob Giuliani: 93 Percent of Blacks Are Killed by Blacks Sunday, 23 Nov 2014 02:27 PM By Greg Richter Former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani says that the media focusing on the Ferguson, Missouri grand jury should spend more attention on why white police officers are in black neighborhoods to start with. "I find it very disappointing that you're not discussing the fact that 93 percent of blacks in America are killed by other blacks," Giuliani said Sunday on "Meet the Press." The case of white police officers killing blacks are the exception rather that the rule, he said. "We are talking about the significant exception," Giuliani said. But a very heated author and professor Michael Eric Dyson said Giuliani was drawing a "false equivalency," saying that most blacks who kill other blacks go to jail and they are not sworn by the state to uphold the law. Giuliani said 70 percent to 75 percent of crime in New York City takes place in predominantly black areas, and that's why there is a large police presence in those places. "The white police officers wouldn't be there if you weren't killing each other," Giuliani said. The debate was sparked by discussion of the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson, Missouri in August. The unarmed 18-year-old was killed by white police officer Darren Wilson, sparking weeks of protests, some of which turned violent. Giuliani says people pushing for an indictment from the grand jury probing the Michael Brown killing in Ferguson, Missouri are perverting the criminal justice system. "This grand jury is under incredible pressure … to indict. I feel sorry for these people because they know if they walk out of that grand jury room and have not indicted they may have created a massive riot in their city and maybe throughout the United States," Giuliani said. "To me, that kind of pressure is completely inconsistent with the American criminal justice system. And the people who are putting on that pressure should be ashamed of themselves," the former mayor said. Fear of more unrest has led Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon to declare a state-of-emergency pre-emptively. Nixon, a Democrat, has faced criticism for that move, but Giuliani said he understood since he found himself in similar situations as mayor of America's largest city. "I would have had a state of emergency, but I would have kept it quiet," Giuliani said. He said he would have had police on alert and placed them where they wouldn't be seen by the public so they would be ready at a moment's notice to stop any kind of violence. But, he added, Nixon was in a no-win situation. "Had he not declared a state of emergency, he'd probably get criticized for not doing it," Giuliani said. The ex-mayor said he is concerned that no one is explaining to the public that grand juries are kept secret to protect innocent people since that system has a lower burden of proof than court. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:13:53 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Ted Cruz praises Stephen Harper's response to terror ... ...attacks"-SunNews Sun News Network's own Kris Sims interviews Senators John McCain and Ted Cruz Credits: KRIS SIM/SUN NEWS NETWORK KRIS SIMS | SUN NEWS NETWORK HALIFAX - A Halifax hotel looks like Disneyland designed by Tom Clancy. The sixth annual Halifax International Security Forum opened Friday with military leaders and security experts from around the world all warning that North America is not a fortress anymore. Citing last month's terrorist attacks in Canada, which killed Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent and Cpl. Nathan Cirillo, Gen. Thomas Lawson, chief of the defence staff for Canada's Armed Forces, speaking at the weekend's first panel, said the world's oceans are no longer natural anti-tank ditches for our continent. "Those were radicalized Canadians. They did not come from without some fortress walls," he said. "Despite claims we are hearing, we think those attackers were self radicalized." A large delegation of Americans is attending the event, including senators John McCain and Ted Cruz, who expressed their condolences to the families of Vincent and Cirillo and said Canada and the United States must work together to fight ISIS and other jihadist terrorists. "Some have said those terrorist attacks were Canada's 9/11, but something good comes from these things and that is that the Canadian people understand better the threat from these radical extremists," McCain told QMI Agency. Cruz praised Prime Minister Stephen Harper's response to the attacks. "Harper has demonstrated a clarity of thought and I can tell you that Americans are grateful for how Canada has stood with us side by side and shoulder to shoulder defending our shared liberty, and we're grateful for the sacrifices that Canadians are making standing up against the threat of radical Islamic terrorism," Cruz told QMI. Both senators said new thinking is needed to combat homegrown terrorists and those who fight for terrorist groups overseas. Late Friday ISIS celebrated the attacks in Canada, taking credit for them in their propaganda magazine, Dabiq. "A General in a conventional army couldn't possibly hope to have such power over men he'd never met on the other side of the world," the text from the online magazine reads. Justice Minister, and former Minister of National Defense, Peter MacKay said Canada needs to bolster its ability to respond to ISIS overseas and domestically. "These are people who adhere to nothing, they are nihilists they believe in anarchy, fear and violence, we've seen beheading of journalists, rape as a weapon of war, the absolute worst of the worst are what ISIL represents," MacKay told QMI. A new poll, released in conjunction with the conference, suggests Canadians tend to agree the country is a more dangerous place. The Ipsos survey found 60% of Canadians and two-thirds of Americans "agree that the world is more dangerous this year than last year and that the threat of an armed conflict has spiked dramatically," the security forum said in a press release. Pollsters interviewed more than 17,500 people in 24 countries, asking questions ranging from the likelihood of global war to how respondents feel about airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq and Syria. According to Ipsos, 64% of Canadian respondents support the international coalition airstrikes, although only 37% feel the strike will eliminate ISIS as a serious threat to peace. The poll results said 67% of Canadians expect there could be "another world conflict involving superpower" similar to the First and Second World Wars in the next 25 years. The forum runs until Sunday. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #531 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)