From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #526 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Saturday, November 22 2014 Volume 16 : Number 526 In this issue: Re: Bruce Montague for Independent MP Re: Independent MPs Finding new hunters and anglers key to Northern tourism: expert Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #521 FW: VIDEO: 5 measures Ottawa should take Re: almost completely... Digest V16 #521 Re: "We will slaughter your people in the streets" Digest ... Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #522 Two men disguised in burkas rob Toronto jewellery store at ... Who voted for war? TORONTO SUN - Climate alarmists need to chill out ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:02:58 -0600 From: "Bruce Montague" Subject: Re: Bruce Montague for Independent MP I don't really know how to repond to this. Clive and other have been trying to get me to run as an MP for quite a few years now, but I don't think I'm cut out for the job. I'm not sure if the idea of me sitting in the house of parliament makes me laugh or puke? Although I think I have the principles to make a good MP I don't have the political savvy to survive this type of game. I'm also very disinfanchized in our political system and no longer feel that it is even possible to fix it anymore! Some day the "bubble will burst" and we'll get a chance to start this whole mess over again. Sorry to sound so cynical, but that's what 10 years of being tortured by our own government can do to you. Short answer is NO, I have no plans on running for MP. Yours in Liberty, Bruce. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:45:47 -0800 From: Todd Birch Subject: Re: Independent MPs More power to any and all considering running as independent candidates! Not much of a chance at success against the Big Red and Blue Machines (not to forget the Orange and Green carbon-neutral versions), but nothing ventured ..... Preston manning was not given much of a chance in getting Reform off the ground and becoming a viable political alternative to either of the "Natural Ruling Parties", but he had the right message at the right time - "The West Wants In". If one Independent candidate makes it to the Hill, it will undoubtedly inspire others to get into the fray. In politics, you eithertake part or get taken apart. However, once the "West Got In", the Reform/Alliance MPs became absorbed by the Borg ("It is futile to resist"), indistinguishable from their cyborg counterparts. "The democratic system of government (read: party system) is the worst possible way of governance, save for all the others". Winston Churchill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, November 19, 2014 2:47 pm From: "Dennis Young" Subject: Finding new hunters and anglers key to Northern tourism: expert Finding new hunters and anglers key to Northern tourism: expert By Jamie Smith, tbnewswatch.com http://www.tbnewswatch.com/Artsentertainment/365008/Finding_new_hunters_and_anglers_key_to_Northern_tourism:_expert THUNDER BAY -- The North needs new people to start fishing and hunting, says one tourism expert. Judy Rogers, head of Research Resolutions and Consulting, says angling and hunting leads the way for drawing tourism to the region but that demographic is mostly male and aging. Like any region in Canada, Northwestern Ontario draws most of its tourism from other parts of the province. With young urban and immigrant populations growing in Toronto, it's a market that the North needs to reach out to but those demographics aren't traditionally big on the outdoors. "You need to make the environment more comfortable," Rogers said Tuesday morning as one of 275 people taking part in the first annual Northern Tourism Summit in Thunder Bay. The region should also gear its festival and attractions to its strengths. "We want people from away, if angling is the hook to get them here then you want to do your best to attract anglers," Rogers said. Tourism Northern Ontario chair Marty Kalagian said the four-day summit is off to a great start, sold out and features more than 40 speakers. "Which exceeds our expectations for the first one," he said. ----------------- FOR THIS AND MORE FIREARMS & OUTDOORS NEWS SUBSCRIBE TO NFA DAILY MEDIA REPORTS E-MAIL: news@nfa.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:00:44 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #521 On 2014-11-16, at 10:16 PM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:07:20 -0800 > From: Todd Birch > Subject: Re: "... almost completely irrelevant ..." > > It may be irrelevant to an armchair geo-political strategist, but I > suspect that it is topic of concern for the security analysts in the > wake of Zehaf-Bibeau's parliamentary excursion. > > For him to penetrate so deeply into the heart of Centre Block was at > once an embarrassment and secondly, a wake up call. Agreed, the security defensive model in use was not a military one. If the improvements are not either, they'll be subject to failure as well. Our politicians are mostly civilians and many were scared silly to find themselves in a war zone. A generation or two of increasingly feminized wus culture didn't prepare them for reality. > A couple of isolated self-styled Jihadi "terrorists" does not > constitute an ISIS campaign against Canada. I.S.I.S. is simply a higher level variation of Islamist jihad groups. The attack in Toulouse, France and at the Paris, airport were against military personnel, as was the attack on Fusilier Lee Rigby in London. The latter was also done initiated via an automobile jihad. As Islamic State shaheed videos have mentioned Canada as one of the nations to be attacked, and it was a Canadian jihadi from Calgary in one of them doing that, how could it not be part of an Islamic State campaign? CISIS/RCMP admit at least 100 Canadian Muslims are fighting jihad in Iraq/Syria. Nothing isolated about that and self-styled. They are simply following "the way of Mo." and social media inspiration and direction. Ths I.S. is way ahead of the other groups in sophisticated production of jihad videos. One would almost think, they had Leni Riefenstahl working for them. There are elements of Sharia Law that are being pushed for or implemented here via M.B. strategy and tactics which are more subtle. The I.S. uses overt terrorism as a tactic, the resultant fear serves the M.B. use of political correctness as a political cover for advancing Sharia Law. The different groups may have different names and tactics but their strategy and goals are identical. > Asking soldiers not to wear their uniforms > publicly is an over reaction, a political "retreat" pandering to the > fearful. If anything, they need to show the flag even more, to include > wearing their uniforms publicly. Yes, it is a retreat and on our own soil. It signifies a victory to the jihadis and will be seen as such by their followers. Always keep in mind the purpose of terrorist attacks is to terrorize. Those two succeeded partially in doing so. It undermines both public and military morale. It needs to be reversed. To show the flag! Damn right! To win in a war, one has to be prepared to take casualties, and not surrender or even hesitate to fight on. Gun control, the absolute prohibition of legal ownership of handguns didn't prevent the jihadis who murdered Lee Rigby in London from obtaining one. Or the Parliament Hill jihadi either, though with "car jihad" being the latest tactic called for by the Islamist jihadis, we'll see how well "car control" works. Admitting we are at war, part of a Clash of Civilizations is still too scary for most. (Dr. Bill Warner is correct in his analysis.) Par of what the Oct. jihad attacks demonstrated was that current security personnel and budgets are inadequate to keep up with the increase jihad activity that the I.S. has inspired. What percentage of the armed forces are trained and equipped to wear sidearms and handle hand to hand or primitive weapons attack? Not many at this point, the Military Police and the Special Forces and those maybe replacing the ones that Chretien dismantled after Somalia. Training and equipping more and having them only go out in pairs or larger groups will take time and a political decision and budget to do so. A survey after the arrest and trial of the Toronto 18, found support for what they wanted to do from about 50,000 to 100,000 Muslims in Canada. The moderate Muslims, who have reason to fear the others, estimate only 1 percent of those here would commit terrorist acts. If their estimate is correct, the potential subset would be 12,000 to really worry about. Guess how much personnel resources it takes to monitor a single jihadi wannabe? It takes on average about 4 years to train CISIS/RCMP security operatives. Not cheap, not quick. How many people fluent in Arabic or Farsi and are loyal and trustworthy and extra smart do you know? Exactly. This is a new war and we're not even up to speed on our military/political intelligence yet, let alone the response. Though response time is improving. > > During my service, there were two occasions when soldiers were asked > not to wear their uniforms publicly. Both were as a result of clashes > between soldiers and civilians. It was that or confinement to barracks. > > As to the wisdom of the order, we were marked by our military haircuts > and our deportment. We stood out very plainly for all but the dullest > observers. That was a civil deportment issue. This is a war issue. Though small in comparison to what is going on in the Middle-East and Europe. This is the first experience Canada has had with being attacked via an imported foreign enemy "F.O.B." infrastructure. Europe experiences eruptions of low level civil war and has for years. France has 400 plus no go zones where it is not safe for the police and which they avoid, and due not exercise full sovereign control. Swedish police just admitted 55 similar no go zones. Firefighters and ambulance won't go there without significant police protection. My first concern is that as in France and other countries, including Israel, which has seen two car jihad attacks since ours, and a synagogue attacked two days ago, how long before they start attacking civilians in public. Oh, they did in Calgary in July... I almost forgot. That, too, was political (military) Islam. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, November 19, 2014 3:10 pm From: "Dennis Young" Subject: FW: VIDEO: 5 measures Ottawa should take Dennis R. Young Honourary Life Member of the CSSA and the NFA Member of the Calgary RCMP Veterans Association Airdrie, Alberta E-Mail: dennisryoung@telus.net From: Justin Trudeau [mailto:info@action.liberal.ca] Sent: November-19-14 10:10 AM To: dennisryoung@telus.net Subject: VIDEO: 5 measures Ottawa should take version française | préférences linguistiques Liberal Dennis R, it’s simple really. Canadians are looking for a better, open and modern government. A Government where information is open by default. That’s why I’ve made my Private Member's Bill, The Transparency Act, a top priority. Over 15,000 Canadians have helped shape this bill. The official debate began last night in the House of Commons – and you can have your say before the vote! Watch this video on the five measures I propose to improve transparency in Ottawa -- then add your name. Dennis R, it’s our government, and I want to know that you stand with me for openness and transparency. Thank you. Justin Trudeau ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:22:52 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Re: almost completely... Digest V16 #521 On 2014-11-16, at 10:16 PM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:07:20 -0800 > From: Todd Birch > Subject: Re: "... almost completely irrelevant ..." > > It may be irrelevant to an armchair geo-political strategist, There are a number of people here where I live who've been subject to Sharia Law aspects. I've met three in the last year. They all know others. Only one has had the courage to go public. That person has approached others who are too afraid to do that. There is a sub-group here, which I'd gladly ship out to where you live. It's not Calgary's "Taliban Heights" or the concentration in parts of Toronto or Montreal but "stealth jihad" M.B. style is strategically part of the same friggin' campaign. I wish it were not here, there are number of other fish to fry. We have to deal with more than just the ghost of Gamil Gharbi ! > but I suspect > that it is topic of concern for the security analysts in the wake of > Zehaf-Bibeau's parliamentary excursion. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:31:23 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Re: "We will slaughter your people in the streets" Digest ... ...V16 #522 On 2014-11-17, at 9:13 AM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:50:48 -0600 > From: "Joe Gingrich" > Subject: 'We will slaughter your people in your streets' > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11156660/US-army-veteran-Peter-Kassig-murdered-by-Isil.html > > 'We will slaughter your people in your streets'... > > by Andrew Marszal, Rob Crilly and Louisa Loveluck > > 16 Nov 2014 > > Today we are slaughtering the soldiers of Bashar and tomorrow we will > be slaughtering your soldiers and with Allah's permission we will break > this final and last crusade and the Islamic State will soon, -----, > begin to slaughter your people on your streets. > > > This is happening here and afar while Harper foolishly and ruthlessly > enforces his enhanced Lieberals' Bill C-68 > promoting the victim disarmament of responsible Canadians.* Increased predation by both wild animal predators and criminal human ones have followed "gun control" measures, but have not risen to a political issue. This one won't either until it's too obvious and too blatant all over facebook and the internet that the MSM can't control. Until then... the Media Party and the politicians set the agenda. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:35:17 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #522 On 2014-11-17, at 9:13 AM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:32:10 -0800 > From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> > Subject: Harper, the Conservatives and the CIA > > TORONTO, ON/ Troy Media/ The biggest threat to Canadas > national security is internal. It is the offshoot of an extraordinarily > successful quiet coup that imposed itself on the country with the > federal election of the Conservative Party of Canada (CPC) in 2006, > and solidified its impacts with the election of a Conservative majority > in 2011. > > Author, poet, academic, and former Canadian diplomat Prof. Peter > Dale Scott recently disclosed a WikiLeaks cable indicating that the > International Republican Institute (IRI), an off-shoot of the CIA, and a > subsidiary of the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), helped > Contact Mark install Stephen Harper as Canadas Prime Minister. This > was the coup. > > Point 12 of the cable explains that In addition to the campaign > schools, IRI will be bringing in consultants who specialize in party > renovation to discuss case studies of political parties in Germany, > Spain, and Canada which successfully carried out the process > > http://marketplace.troymedia.com/2014/11/16/canadas-quiet-coup/ > > 45clive Don't worry their next candidate is Just in. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:13:36 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Two men disguised in burkas rob Toronto jewellery store at ... ...gunpoint, hauling in $500K in merchandise-Nat. Post View the link for c.c. t.v. video Gee, it only took a month for the Tor. police to ask the public for help. Clearly, they didn't wish to have this labelled a case of Islamophobia. Diversity, how much cultural enrichment can one city take? ============================================================ http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/11/19/two-men-disguised-in-burkas-rob-toronto-jewelry-store-at-gunpoint-hauling-in-500k-in-merchandise/ Two men disguised in burkas rob Toronto jewellery store at gunpoint, hauling in $500K in merchandise Republish Reprint Stefan Morrone, Josh Visser | November 19, 2014 | Last Updated: Nov 19 2:46 PM ET TPSThe robbery occurred Tuesday and was caught on camera. Toronto police are asking for the publics assistance identifying two men who robbed a jewellery store last month while wearing burkas. Edmond Bakos, the owner of the York Mills-Leslie Street-area Mona-Clara Jewellers, said he didnt think twice about the people who walked into his store on OCt. 14 until one them produced a handgun and demanded jewellery in a distinctly masculine voice. Three seconds after they walked in, they pulled out a gun and said, Its a holdup, Bakos said. While one suspect emptied a display of jewellery into his handbag, the second went with a female staff member to lock the entrance. The pair got away with about $500,000 in jewellery during the five-minute holdup, Holdup squad Staff-Insp. Mike Earl told reporters Wednesday. The robbery took place at about 11 a.m., at a busy mall plaza, he said. Bakos described the incident as traumatic. Police have little in the way of a description for the suspects. One is described as black and 511, the other only described as 63. Both had shiny objects on their sleeves. Theres not much to go with here, Staff-Insp. Earl admitted. Police have video of the pair walking to the store and believe there was a getaway vehicle at the back of the plaza. Its the first jewellery store robbery Ive seen where the individuals were wearing burkas, Staff-Insp. Earl said. He said a burka would not stand out in October, while a ski mask would likely draw attention. TPS One of the men forced a female employee to lock up the store. There are other unsolved jewellery store heists this year and the robbery may be related, he added. Its another way of disguising yourself, he said. Police are asking anyone who purchased a large quantity of jewels in the last month to contact them. Hopefully an honest retailer will come forward, Staff-Insp. said. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:17:21 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Who voted for war? http://buchanan.org/blog/vote-war-7153 Did We Vote for War? By Patrick J. Buchanan Tuesday - November 18, 2014 “How do you like the Journal’s war?” So boasted the headline of William Randolph Hearst’s New York flagship that week in 1898 that the United States declared war on Spain. While Hearst’s Journal, in a circulation battle with Joe Pulitzer’s World, was a warmongering sheet, it did not start the war. Yet the headline comes to mind reading the Wall Street Journal, whose editorial pages seem to have concluded that on Nov. 4 America voted for new wars in the Middle East, and beyond. On Nov. 13, the Journal’s op-ed page was given over to Mark Dubowitz and Reuel Marc Gerecht of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Assuming nuclear talks with Iran conclude unsuccessfully by the Nov. 24 deadline, they write, we have four options. Two involve continued or tougher sanctions. The other two are a preemptive war featuring U.S. air and missile strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities, or a U.S. attack to bring down Bashar Assad’s regime. “Taking Mr. Assad down would let Tehran know that America’s withdrawal from the Middle East and President Obama’s dreams of an entente with Iran are over.” It would surely do that. But taking down the Syrian regime could also lead to a slaughter of Christians and Alawites, an al Qaida-ISIS takeover in Damascus, war with Iran, and attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq and across the Middle East. Which raises a question: What is this FDD? Answer: A War Party think tank that in 2011, according to Philip Weiss of Mondoweiss website and Eli Clifton of Salon, took in $19 million from five rabidly pro-Israel givers. Home Depot’s Bernard Marcus gave $10.7 million, hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer $3.6 million. Sheldon Adelson, the Vegas-Macau casino kingpin, chipped in $1.5 million. Last week, Adelson and media mogul Haim Saban spoke of plans to dump hundreds of millions into the presidential campaigns of 2016. What does the pair want from our next president? According to the Washington Post’s Phil Rucker and Tom Hamburger, action on Iran: “Saban said that fundamentalist Iranians represent a real threat. If necessary to defend Israel, and as a last resort, he added, ‘I would bomb the living daylights out of the sons of bitches.'” Echoed the 81-year-old Adelson, “I would not just talk. I would take action.” Last year, at Yeshiva University, Adelson, who pumped $150 million into the 2012 campaign, said the U.S. should fire a nuclear missile into the Iranian desert as a warning to end their nuclear program, or the next atom bomb would be dropped on Teheran. This billionaires boys club wants to buy U.S. foreign policy and a U.S. war on Iran. And the propagandists of FDD are paid to produce that war, in which they will not be doing the fighting and dying. Back to the Journal. On Nov. 15, its lead editorial declared that the great “question before President Obama and Europe is how to stop the Napoleon of the Kremlin.” Putin is Napoleon? Has the Journal lost it? Vladimir Putin is 62. By age 40, Napoleon’s empire encompassed nearly all of Europe. France had swallowed Belgium, Holland, parts of Germany and the Italian coast to Rome. The Emperor had alliances with Austria, Russia, Denmark, Sweden and a truncated Prussia. Virtually all the resources, industries and populations of Continental Europe were at the service of the French Empire. Putin has reacquired Crimea, which belonged to Russia before the United States was a nation, and is about the size of Vermont. Napoleon made it to Moscow. Does the Journal think Putin will make it to Paris, as Czar Alexander I did, or to Berlin, as Stalin did? The Journal hails the Senate Foreign Relations Committee 18-0 vote to arm the Ukrainians, and urges Congress to do the same. And what would be the result of U.S. heavy weapons arriving in Kiev? Would Putin recoil in shock and awe and scurry out of Crimea? Probably not, as the Journal itself concedes, “In 15 years running Russia, Mr. Putin has never stood down.” And if Putin, seeing U.S. weapons arriving in Kiev, sent in the Russian army to annex Luhansk and Donetsk, took Mariupol on the Black Sea coast, established a land bridge to Crimea, and then offered to negotiate, what would Kiev do? Even with U.S. weapons Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. What would we do? Accept defeat? Send U.S. advisers or troops into Ukraine? Launch strikes on Russian forces? Blockade Crimea? Are we really prepared for war with Russia, over Donetsk? Since Nov. 4, the Journal and its neocon allies have been cawing for U.S. troops to fight ISIL in Iraq and Syria, for U.S. air strikes on Assad’s regime, for bombing Iran, and for arming Ukraine to fight the Russians in a war that Kiev would surely lose. Was this what America voted for on Nov. 4? Is this what the Grand Old Party has to offer — endless war? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, November 19, 2014 10:50 pm From: "Dennis Young" Subject: TORONTO SUN - Climate alarmists need to chill out TORONTO SUN - Climate alarmists need to chill out - 55 comments But there is little or nothing to be alarmed about. So the prime minister mustn't capitulate. By Lorne Gunter, QMI Agency - Tuesday, November 18, 2014 07:35 PM EST http://www.torontosun.com/2014/11/18/climate-alarmists-need-to-chill-out Every time it gets unseasonably cold and someone says the chill is proof global warming isn't happening, the climate alarmists shriek that one cold spell proves nothing. Of course the reverse is never true. Every heatwave, hurricane or drought is trumpeted by the same fear mongers as proof that a warming catastrophe is imminent. Whenever local temperatures exceed the seasonal norm, some climate scientist or eco-activist will insist that these are the kind of hot times humans will have to get used to if we don't dramatically reduce our lifestyles and our carbon emissions. Indeed, just imagine what the environmentalists would be shouting right now if, instead of being the coldest November on record in parts of North America, this was the warmest. As many as 300 U.S. weather stations in the Rocky Mountain West, the Midwest and the South have broken all-time daily lows - and not by just a little. Denver set a new record low for last Saturday that was nearly 3C below the old one recorded nearly a century ago. A score of U.S. cities have recorded the coldest temperatures for any day in the entire month of November dating back more than 130 years. And the U.S. Weather Channel reports this is "one of the longest sub-freezing spells on record for the month of November," if not the longest. If it were the other way around - if U.S. cities were shattering daily or monthly warm records - headlines everywhere would be screaming "Scientists warn of impending climate Armageddon!" Even if a warming planet will occasionally still have cold spells, it is seems unlikely that it would get colder than at any time in the past century-and-a-half. Cold, yes; but not deep, deep record cold. Especially when you couple this with the fact that the Earth has not warmed in nearly two decades, this has to call the whole global warming alarm theory into question. Instead politicians and environmentalists are continuing with their shrill insistence that our planet is at risk unless we scale back how we all live and put more power in the hands of governments to regulate industries. The inability of politicians, particularly on the left, to accept that there is little real proof of a coming climate meltdown - lots of theoretical belief, but little proof - is more of a threat to our way of life than climate change. For Canada, the unfounded hysteria over global warming imperils our national economy. Unless two or more of the four main proposed pipelines - Keystone XL, Northern Gateway, Kinder Morgan, Energy East - out of Alberta's oilsands get built, the entire national economy will slow. And it is hysterical climate alarmism that is the biggest obstacle standing in the way of all four. (First Nations opposition is obstacle No. 2.) In the U.S., President Barack Obama's climate obsession is the main barrier to Keystone XL approval. Even after the U.S. Senate finally approves the pipeline, Obama is likely to veto it because he and his sophomoric advisers are so convinced of climate theories, and because the left wing of his Democratic party has made Keystone a symbol of everything evil. Climate obsession is also why Obama signed a one-sided climate deal with China last week. The U.S. must make sizeable carbon emission reductions by 2025; the Chinese need do nothing - nothing - before 2030. At home, climate obsession among Liberals and New Democrats prevents them from seeing the meaninglessness of the Obama-China pact. They are so desperate to prove their climate bona fides that they have hammered on the Harper government to give in to alarmism here, too. But there is little or nothing to be alarmed about. So the prime minister mustn't capitulate. lorne.gunter@sunmedia.ca ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #526 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)