From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #510 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Saturday, November 8 2014 Volume 16 : Number 510 In this issue: RE: Smart TeeVee Re: Gharbi- Digest V16 #506 "Women in the infantry, yes"-C. Hernandez Re: Are you in? International Islamist volunteers taking cruise ships to jihad Why we need people like Todd TIME - Poll Finds 6 in 10 Americans Believe Guns Improve ... Re: ...Climate March" Digest V16 #475 Re: Regarding: TEAM CSSA SPECIAL REPORT Fwd: MACLEANS - Time for an informed debate over policing powers It is easier to get someone to believe a lie than accept ... A couple of quotes to bear in mind. Remembrance Day 2014: RCMP to send plain clothed officers to ... The latest on "Sandy Hook" Photos for illustration only RE: International Islamist volunteers taking cruise ships to ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:58:35 -0800 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: RE: Smart TeeVee > Smart TeeVee > > Orwell's "1984" has come full circle. (Don't be doing anything > 'strange' while watching 'certain' TV channels.) Big Brother is > watching. In HIGH DEFINITION - EVERYWHERE. It's worse than you think, Todd. Watch "Take Back Your Power", an award winning documentary by Josh del Sol, a BC director/producer. Smart Appliances are designed to mesh with Smart Meters and the Smart Grid. It is not merely about surveillance, but about control. Using facial recognition software, computers can harvest information way beyond what is currently available on digital phone networks. Digital phone networks allow "the watchers" to take any specific phone or group of phones off the hook, allowing any sounds within range to be recorded. Smart TV's can not only communicate how many are watching, who is watching but also how the viewers are reacting to what they are watching. If you don't pay a parking ticket, or you might leave town, or show up at a rally, do you really think the smart grid can't deny you the ability to charge your smart electric car? After all, the computer in your car will have a MAC (Machine Access Code) address. It's not just monitoring your emails, phone calls, faxes and public presence anymore. My primary concern with the smart grid is the Wifi smart meters. There are major health issues, including mental health issues, that are not being talked about officially. Health Canada is blind to these problems because only engineering issues were explored during certification. The communications lobby is now bigger than the pharmaceutical lobby. For further technical information, Google "Jerry Flynn", a retired CF electronic warfare specialist, "Barry Trower", a retired British electronic warfare specialist and "Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt", an environmental medicine specialist from Seattle and Germany. 45clive ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 16:26:21 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Re: Gharbi- Digest V16 #506 The 14th woman murdered was stabbed to death by Gamil Gharbi. A description of the lack of resistance by anyone inside or outside the classroom where the murders started should be added. Montreal is now said to have numerous Islamic terrorist branch organizations and a growing Islamic political influence. Ghomeshi, so far has not been charged, nor convicted of any offence, though finally investigations have begun as an information by 3 women have been filed. If as new reports indicate, this would be the 3rd report of violence attributed to a Canadian Muslim in a few days. A cultural/political analysis will be too much for the MSM living in denial, to deal with. Getting them to deal with the Gamil Gharbi attacks will only occur as a new generation of journalists replaces the old anti-male, anti-West cabal retires and is replaced. In a few years, I predict. And only as SunnewsTV gains market share. Us raising that issue between now and Dec. 6th is plays an important role in cracking the Media Party conspiracy. On 2014-11-06, at 7:02 AM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 09:53:19 -0800 > From: j davies > Subject: Ghomeshi: the new Gamil Gharbi > > That the CBC would harbor, appease, promote and defend a > radical woman hater is no surprise, of course. Look how they > and their running dog progressive friends successfully shifted > the first Islamic terror attack in Canada from Ghamil Gharbi, > hater of emancipated woman into Marc Lepine: just another evil > western male. With a GUN. Focus on the GUN. > > Although there will continue to be an all-out push to appease > and protect another false idol who holds typical Muslim attitudes > towards women and somehow blame western men, the truth > may be harder to hide this time, especially now when they are > also working so hard to switch the stories about the cowardly killers > of two serving Canadian Army men from Islamic extremists to a > generic bad western male story. With a GUN. > > In light of these sordid examples of truth modification, I found > it useful to review the story of the Muslim who started it all in > Canada, Gamil Gharbi. Here is a concise description: > > http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/spree-killers/marc-lepine/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 16:47:00 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Women in the infantry, yes"-C. Hernandez Chris Hernandez makes a limited case for women serving in the infantry. Denmark's experience is interesting. The Afghan campaign experience is, I'd wage, getting all participants to up their game to be ready for the coming battles. Regular forces have to be good, very good but not elite. http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2014/10/15/women-in-the-infantry-yes/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:39:58 -0500 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: Are you in? Once again, Not a single cent until promises are kept and C-68 is repealed and the Firearms act abolished. It has seriously pissed off millions of law abiding citizens.. time to stop the pathetic persecution of those law abiding citizens and the insane waste of resources that would be far better used in other ways that would do something of actual value. Sad that every one of your emails like this I reply to.. and many others agree w/me... and yet you still refuse to clue in. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Fred DeLorey, Conservative Party of Canada < info@conservative.ca> wrote: > [image: Conservative Party of Canada] > > > g, > > We set out to add 2,000 new members to our party with a special Membershi p > Drive last week. I’m happy to report that didn’t just su rpass our target, > we actually surprised ourselves with the results. > > *All said, our Conservative Party added 2,854 new members to our rolls.* > > The Conservative Party has never been stronger – and it’s all due to > strong grassroots supporters like you. > > It’s your dedication. Your long volunteer hours. Your ideas at ou r > convention. Your involvement in the selection and backing of 338 > Conservative candidates from coast to coast to coast. > > *g ** – > It’s less than a year until the election. It’s not too la te to add your > name. Are you part of the team? > * > > Don’t miss out – sign up for a membership today, and let ’s elect another > Conservative majority. > > Fred DeLorey > Director, Political Operations > Conservative Party of Canada > > This email was sent to: kindanyume@gmail.com > > We believe email is an important way to stay in touch with Canadians. If > you no longer wish to receive e-mail updates from us, click here > to unsubscribe. > > Email communications from: Conservative Party of Canada, 1204-130 Albert > St, Ottawa, ON, K1P 5G4 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 21:26:29 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: International Islamist volunteers taking cruise ships to jihad NATO was formed as a defence pact against the threat of 20th Century Soviet aggression. Is one of it's strategic members an asset or a liability against the threat of 21st Islamist aggression? Complicated enough for you? Another reason arguing it will be a long and difficult war, and who is on whose side isn't even agreed on yet. Laurence of Arabia must be turning over in his grave at the prospect of a 2nd Ottoman Caliphate. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/straight-talk-and-hard-news/868018287001/turkey-a-terrorist-hub/3880715477001 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 07:47:17 -0800 From: Len Miller Subject: Why we need people like Todd Why we need people like Todd on the Digest . . . Why we NEED the Digest . . Yesterday on the CBC TV they aired an abominable falsity A Navy Seal who claimed to have shot and killled Osama bin Laden . . Now this is OUR TV representation to the COUNTRY !! One wonders where they get their feed in order to pump such crap over the TV WAVES? bin Laden it was reported: died in Dec 01 of MARFAN SYNDROME AN AFFLICTION WHICH SERIOUSLY SHORTENS THE LIFE OF ITS VICTIM. And here we have it again and again, American propaganda of A NAVY SEAL bragging about cutting down a manufactured bad guy. Hey, Dummy! . . He died Dec 01 . . a full TEN YEARS before YOU shot and killed a stand in!! No wonder they failed to produce the dead body . . Another innocent has been ‘Jack Rubied’ Where is your next Twin Towers # project coming to justify the slaughter of not only YOUR troops, but innocent others?? # Actually it WAS THREE TOWERS . . . AND THERE WAS NO PENTAGON 757 WRECKAGE . . . I UNDERSTAND ‘THEY’ HAVE STOPPED THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE TOWERS ‘THINGY’ . . .. TOO MANY UNEXPLANABLE FLAWS . . YOU HEARD IT FROM LEN 144 A BIG THANK YOU TO TODD FOR HIS TIMELY REMINDER OF ORWELL!!! Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 10:14:51 -0800 From: Todd Birch Subject: Re: Smart TeeVee That is truly frightening! It is amazing just how accurate Orwell was in his predictions. It's even more amazing how many people you meet who have never even read "1984" and so are unaware of the incremental manifestations of "Big Brother" in our daily lives. Trudeau The Elder once remarked that the state had no business in the bedrooms of the nation. How innocent and naive that now sounds by comparison! Now the agents of "Big Brother" have invaded our living rooms, hand held devices and computers. Life in "Oceania" - life imitating art? Whodathunk Orwell would prove to be such a prophet. Smart TeeVee Orwell's "1984" has come full circle. (Don't be doing anything 'strange' while watching 'certain' TV channels.) Big Brother is watching. In HIGH DEFINITION - EVERYWHERE. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, November 8, 2014 10:00 am From: "Dennis Young" Subject: TIME - Poll Finds 6 in 10 Americans Believe Guns Improve ... ...Home Safety TIME - Poll Finds 6 in 10 Americans Believe Guns Improve Home Safety The number represents a twofold increase from 2000 Justin Worland @justinworland - Nov. 7, 2014 https://time.com/3572478/americans-guns-safety/ More than 60% of Americans say having a gun in the home makes them safer, according to a new Gallup report. That number represents a two-fold increase from 2000, when only 30% of Americans said they felt a gun improved safety. The responses to the poll diverged greatly along political and geographical lines. Republicans were twice as likely as Democrats to say guns made them safer. Nearly 70% of people in the South say that guns make their homes safer, compared with just under 60% in the West and East. While a majority of people may believe in keeping a gun for safety reasons, only 42% actually do. That figure has been fairly consistent over the last decade. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 11:38:07 -0500 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: ...Climate March" Digest V16 #475 Indeed Bruce.. a friend of mine is pagan but not a enviro-nazi On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Bruce Mills wrote: > > Larry, be very careful with your statements about pagans - not all of us > are sandal wearing, tree hugging, granola crunchers.... > > Yours in TYRANNY! > Bruce > > "It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but > for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with > life itself." > - From The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320. > > > From: Larry James Fillo > To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:30 AM > Subject: Re: ...Climate March" Digest V16 #475 > > Well written and deserves wide circulation. Lee would be in > cabinet now, were he in Ottawa, today. > > One reason for the irrational attachment that "environmentalists" > have to the hypothesis of CO2 caused global warming > is, that they see it as their new religious belief. > > Having eschewed Judeo/Christian morality, they've regressed > to ancient nature worship or paganism. > > Since their belief has the status of a primitive religion, they > also abandoned any commitment to scientific method, too. > > The hundreds of thousands killed in China each year due to > severe air pollution would be a scandal in a liberal democracy. > In China the Party chooses the priorities and are rarely > challenged. > > Advanced democracies can at least decide to filter or scrub > the emissions somewhat, for a price. Dictatorships, like China > face no political fallout for ignoring that. > > Economic expansion is the over riding political goal. > > Nuclear power has gotten a little more expensive now that, > due to Islamic Jihadis, each power plant has a 24/7/365 SWAT > team. > > Natural gas in many places is dirt cheap, and power plants and > or expansions are also relatively cheap and quick to build. > > Nothing nuclear can be quick or cheap either, though uranium is, > relative to the capital cost of a reactor. > > Fracking success means that the relative price of Nat. gas won't change, > much for a while. > > On 2014-10-11, at 6:28 AM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > >> Date: Fri, October 10, 2014 5:23 pm >> From: "Dennis Young" >> Subject: Thoughts On The People's Climate March by Lee Morrison >> >> Unpublished column distributed at the request of the author. >> >> Calgary, Sept. 24, 2014 >> THOUGHTS ON THE PEOPLE'S CLIMATE MARCH BY LEE MORRISON ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:03:36 -0500 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: Regarding: TEAM CSSA SPECIAL REPORT All of the FA.. not just c-68.. the entire thing is a useless damaging waste of resources that does nothing good ever. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bruce Mills wrote: > > I agree with Joe: *ALL* of Bill C-68, the Firearms Act, must be abolished ! > Nothing less is unacceptable. > Yours in TYRANNY! > Bruce > > "It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but > for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with > life itself." > - From The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320. > > > From: Joe Gingrich > To: Canadian Digest > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:47 AM > Subject: Regarding: TEAM CSSA SPECIAL REPORT > > > Date: Sat, October 11, 2014 8:29 am > From: "Dennis Young" > Subject: TEAM CSSA SPECIAL REPORT: Common Sense Firearms Licensing Act > > CANADIAN SHOOTING SPORTS ASSOCIATION / CANADIAN INSTITUTE FOR > LEGISLATIVE ACTION > TEAM CSSA SPECIAL REPORT - October 7, 2014 > http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/2014/10/special_report_20141007.html > > "While we recognize there are still many severe problems > inherent in the Firearms Act that have yet to be resolved, this bill > represents another significant step in the right direction." > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Dear CSSA, > > No! > > "Bill C-68, if passed into law, will not be a good law. It will be a bad > law, a > blight on the legislative record of the government, a law that fails the > three great tests of constitutionality, of effectiveness and of > democratic > consent of the governed. What should be the fate of a bad law? It should > be > repealed..." C-68 has proven to be a bad law and has created a > bureaucratic nightmare for both gun owners and the government. > As Leader of the Official Opposition I will use all the powers afforded > to > me as Leader and continue our party's fight to repeal Bill C-68 and > replace > it with a firearms control system that is cost effective and respects > the > rights of Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly. Stephen J. > Harper – Jan. 2002 > > > Harper’s ‘Common Sense Firearms Licensing Act’ > is Nonsense. It must be repealed as promised. > . > > Do not work, support, fund or vote for the Harper Conservatives until > they repeal their Bill C-68 as promised. > > Yours in Tyranny, > Joe Giingrich > White Fox, Sask. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:10:46 -0500 From: Kindanyume Subject: Fwd: MACLEANS - Time for an informed debate over policing powers a very slippery slope here... and that must be dealt with extreme caution ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dennis Young Date: Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:34 PM Subject: MACLEANS - Time for an informed debate over policing powers To: cfdmod@bogend.ca EXCERPT: At an appearance before a Senate committee this week, RCMP Deputy Commissioner Mike Cabana was asked by White what new legal tools the force needs. Referring to Zehaf-Bibeau, Cabana said: "I'm not sure what kind of tools we would have to have in place to prevent all kinds of incidents like the one we saw last week, especially if the planning behind the incident is just done by one individual with very little collaboration from anybody else." MACLEANS - Time for an informed debate over policing powers A sweeping assessment of how Ottawa confronts terrorist threats is overdue, says one observer John Geddes - October 30, 2014 http://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/the-moment-for-hugging-is-over-its-time-to-debate-policing-powers/ Sen. Vern White's story about where he was when gunshots echoed through the Parliament buildings lacks immediacy, but makes up for it in irony. The former chief of the Ottawa police, appointed to the Senate by Prime Minister Stephen Harper in 2007, wasn't on Parliament Hill the morning of Oct. 22. White was giving a lecture at an Ottawa meeting of police oversight agencies about how police should confront mental illness and radicalization-two closely connected factors that now top the law-enforcement agenda."I was just finishing with questions and answers when the shooting happened," White says. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:15:32 -0800 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: It is easier to get someone to believe a lie than accept ... ...that they have been lied to. > Well, you could always travel down there, view a copy of the Coroner's > Report, the Coroner and local people and do your own investigation > into the facts? Actually that has been done. The only death certificate issued was false. Read the rest, although I suspect Mr. Pastry may be one who only believes what he hears on FOX or SUN (after all, he is far to intelligent to be taken in by the CBC). Of course, I don't believe the articles below have been approved by any of the six major media organizations in North America which Mr. Pastry depends on to tell him his insane worldview is the norm. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/08/wolf-meets-with-oath-keepers-cia-spy-confirms-sandy-hook-and-boston-bombing-false-flags/ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/07/top-ten-reasons-sandy-hook-was-an-elaborate-hoax/ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/28/the-sandy-hook-hat-trick-more-twists-and-turns/ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/03/sandy-hook-ten-more-proofs-that-vitiate-the-official-account/ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/22/the-sandy-hook-smoking-gun-game-set-match/ http://www.rense.com/general96/sandythreat.html http://pensacola.craigslist.org/pol/4707496514.html There are many more links and articles, but you get the idea. 45clive ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 10:25:57 -0800 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: A couple of quotes to bear in mind. "Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play." - Joseph Goebbels "Politics determines who has the power, not who has the truth." - Paul Krugman 45clive ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 18:58:39 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Remembrance Day 2014: RCMP to send plain clothed officers to ... ...Calgary, Edmonton-CBC http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/remembrance-day-2014-rcmp-to-send-plain-clothed-officers-to-calgary-edmonton-1.2828784 For the first time, RCMP say they will embed plain clothed officers among citizens at this year's Remembrance Day ceremonies in Calgary and Edmonton. The decision was made due to the recent killings of two soldiers in Ottawa and St.-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Que. and the growing threat posed to Canadians from ISIS-inspired radicals. As well, the larger ceremonies in both cities will see an armed contingent of RCMP guards in addition to the ceremonial officers in their red serges. "Even though they may be armed, their focus will be on the ceremony itself, they won't be watching the crown and whatnot," said Sgt. Jeff Campbell with the RCMP in Calgary in regards to the officers taking part in a ceremonial capacity. "So we'll also have officers there in general duty uniform for members' safety and for the public's safety as well, making sure nothing happens." Calgary police have also been told to wear their street uniforms — and carry their weapons — at this year's Remembrance Day ceremonies. Rick Hanson, Chief of the Calgary Police Service, says people in the community are worried after recent attacks and that seeing police officers in uniform at the services will reassure the public. "We want people in uniform, our officers in uniform, acknowledging the sacrifice of veterans but [also] because of the need to ensure that people understand that we're there, we're there to fulfill our jobs as police officers and not just to acknowledge the veterans." This undated photo provided by the Department of National Defence, shows Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent. (AP Photo/Department of National Defence) (The Associated Press) Cp. Nathan Cirillo and Warrant Office Patrice Vincent died in separate attacks by two men RCMP say held radical Islamic beliefs. Vincent, 53, was struck and killed by Martin Couture-Rouleau on Oct. 20 in a St-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Que., parking lot in what CSIS described at the time as a "violent expression of an extremist ideology." Two days later, Cirillo was killed by a lone gunman while standing guard at the National War Memorial in downtown Ottawa. The gunman, Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, was shot and killed shortly after making his way to Parliament Hill and getting into the Centre Block. Hanson says no threats have been identified in Calgary, but police want to make sure the public feels safe. For a full list of Remembrance Day events happening around town, click here. ======================================================================= "to make the public feel safe"- or to be safe? Our present strategy is to contain would be jihadis within Western countries, preventing them from joining the Islamic State on the battlefield, where our armed force can meet and defeat them, should they be allowed to and tasked to do so. Containment is proving more challenging than first thought... (the understatement of 2014.) A feeling of security will continue to fade in the face of events, until the Clash of Civilizations is acknowledged, taken seriously, met on all fronts and with great resolve, from which we prove "the strong horse" and victorious. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:36:50 -0800 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: The latest on "Sandy Hook" "Using the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre as its justification, the Obama administration has recently given the psychiatric business and pharmaceutical industry a major gift by quietly introducing a behavioral and mental health program in public schools throughout the United States"-James Tracy "Several significant developments confirm that we are on the track to exposing the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about Sandy Hook, including new information that appears to expose the motive behind the hoax. "One is that Wolfgang Halbig, the Forida State Trooper, former school principal and national school safety expert was warned that he was "irritating" some powerful people during a 30-minute phone call last Monday, 3 November 2014. "In a classic scene right from a Hollywood thriller, he was forced off the road by a black SUV as he returned from Olive Garden with take-out for him and his wife, scattering the salad and Italian crusine throughout his own vehicle. "Nathan Folks, the Hollywood producer/director who observed that one of the players in Boston was an actor he had cast in one of his own films and that what was taking place there is known as "hyper-realistic filming", in which scenes are made as realistic as possible (to condition green troops as to what they might experience in combat), http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/08/twists-and-turns-major-sandy-hook-motive-emergeswolfgang-forced-off-the-road/ 45clive ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 20:43:41 -0800 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: Photos for illustration only "The top US military commander says the United States is learning from Israel's tactics on how to limit civilian casualties in a war, despite the international outcry over the regime's brutality in Gaza." "General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Thursday that the Pentagon has sent a team to see what lessons could be learned from the recent Israeli invasion of Gaza on how to limit civilian casualties." http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/07/you-just-cant-make-this-stuff-up-us-to-learn-war-tactics-from-israelis/ 45clive ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 21:08:03 -0800 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: RE: International Islamist volunteers taking cruise ships to ... ...jihad > Laurence of Arabia must be turning over in his grave at the prospect > of a 2nd Ottoman Caliphate. Yes, T. E. Lawrence fought against the Turks but he supported the Arabs and was an anti-colonialist. He was appalled by the Brits and French stabbing the Arabs in the back, after promising them freedom for joining the fight against Turkey. Please read "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom", T.E. Lawrence's autobiography of the period. It is an excellent book, right up there with Carroll Quigley's "Tragedy and Hope" as a history lesson you will not find in any institution designed to dumb down the inmates. T.E. Lawrence would have been anti-Zionist, as well. It is quite possible this is what got him killed before WW2. 45clive ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #510 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)