From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #199 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Sunday, March 23 2014 Volume 16 : Number 199 In this issue: Hancock to be sworn in Sunday "Lady" cop charged with assault Re: THE ATLANTIC: Why firearms are, in fact, a healthcare ... RE: military budgets- Digest V16 #193 RE: "America's police have become too militarized, cops or ... RE: When will we rise- Digest V16 #196 Firearms policy should be based on fact by Solomon Friedman Police keep quiet about cell-tracking technology Civil Advantage and Canada's NFA Working Together The Rule of Law, eh? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:00:08 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Hancock to be sworn in Sunday Is Hancock another Alberta Tory gun-grabber? http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2014/03/20140321-1 85523.html Hancock to be sworn in Sunday KEVIN MAIMANN | QMI AGENCY March 21st, 2014 EDMONTON ─ Dave Hancock will officially take the reins as Alberta's interim premier Sunday. The current deputy premier was voted in as interim premier by Tory MLAs during a Thursday caucus meeting, the day after Premier Alison Redford announced her resignation. Hancock said he will retain his current portfolio of advanced education and will not make any major changes to cabinet positions, legislation or ongoing policy reviews. He ran for leader of the PC Party in 2006 when he lost to Ed Stelmach, but has said he will not run in the upcoming leadership race. Hancock won his first election in 1997 in the Edmonton-Whitemud riding and has since served in multiple cabinet posts including health, justice and education. Hancock will be sworn in at 6:30 p.m. at Government House, in a ceremony that will be streamed live at Alberta.ca Redford will continue to serve as the MLA for Calgary-Elbow. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 11:08:51 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: "Lady" cop charged with assault http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2014/03/20140322-123012.html Montreal cop charged with assault MICHAEL NGUYEN | QMI AGENCY March 22, 2014 MONTREAL - A Montreal police officer who was caught on videotape making an overly aggressive arrest has been charged with one count of simple assault. Stephanie Trudeau, who is known to many simply by her badge number of 728, is accused of assaulting a man who was standing outside of his residence while drinking a beer. The video shows Trudeau forcefully arresting and assaulting Serge Lavoie. A friend of Lavoie's filmed the incident. After the arrest, Trudeau was quoted as saying that she thought she had done nothing wrong. "It's all A1," Trudeau said. "It's all legit." Trudeau was also recorded speaking about the incident in vulgar terms. Montreal police later held a press conference to condemn her actions. Trudeau's lawyer, Jean-Pierre Rancourt, says the fact that it took police two years to lay charges against his client shows "that there's a problem (with the case)." Trudeau also faced scrutiny in 2012 when a video surfaced of her pepper spraying protesters during the 'Maple Spring' student protests. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:51:19 -0700 From: Len Miller Subject: Re: THE ATLANTIC: Why firearms are, in fact, a healthcare ... ...issue Hello, Olga, here's something for you to consider: Would you rather that suiciders would get drunk and drove a car into a tree, a light pole, or another car . . which is what they are doing now? Oh, it's only a brief moment on radio, ( the crash) and then it's history . That no one ( until now ) has been able to offer a reasonable explanation for the number of car deaths, which get reported, ( missing the suicide aspect ) and then media moves on . . Well . . there's doorknobs to be reported on . . If a gun was used, there would only be the death of the user rather than the deaths, or injury to the OTHER drivers? Think ! think ! . . people, or has Dr. Stanley Milgram, once again, proved his study? ( He did a study on why people do the things they do . . ) Len 144 On 2014-03-22, at 8:37 AM, Dennis Young wrote: > Guns Far More Likely to Be Used in Suicide Than in Killing Bad Guys > Why firearms are, in fact, a healthcare issue ( leave it to a paranoid woman ! ) > OLGA KHAZANMAR 20 2014, 12:30 PM ET > http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/guns-far-more-likely-to- be > -used-in-suicide-than-in-killing-bad-guys/284537/ > > Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? > A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence, Don B Kates and Gary Mauser > http://www.garymauser.net/pdf/KatesMauserHJPP.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:47:41 -0700 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: RE: military budgets- Digest V16 #193 > "Western liberal democracies mostly depending for electoral success > on what entitlement programs they offer and expand, will only change > their budget priorities when faced with a crisis, a loss, they can't > ignore. > > The current Canadian government is more aware and engaged with foreign > policy both trade and politically than most have been, but is unlikely > to go further than they think the awareness of the public will support." The term, "Western Liberal Democracy" is misleading, since it is not really a democracy. For a real democracy to function the electorate must be fully informed and not limited to those choices officially allowed to be voted on. Two political parties that may form government and a few others as window dressing to create the appearance of democracy do not a democracy make. Especially when whomever forms government must have the blessing of the City of London or the government will be very short lived indeed. A choice between globalists and globalists is not a choice in any meaningful sense. It is as absurd as pretending the middle eastern wars are somehow morally superior to the situation in the Ukraine. Canada is an important player/puppet in the Round Table Establishment, as are Australia, New Zealand and arguably South Africa. Read Carroll Quigley's, "The Anglo American Establishment", available free online, for an understanding of our current irrational world. It is the Council on Foreign Relations and the other Round Table groups that are the major criminal organizations in today's world. If Harper had the resolve Putin has to stand up for Canadians against the globalists, rather than selling us out, he would have my support. 45clive ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:04:11 -0700 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: RE: "America's police have become too militarized, cops or ... That guy in Montreal who blew the Balaclava'd Banditos out the door is looking more like a hero and role model as time goes on. We need to organize our own Neighbourhood Watch. That's not so much "taking the law into our own hands", since that is where the law is supposed to reside in the first place (we only delegate it to people paid to enforce); we would be defending ourselves against unaccountable tyranny. Funny thing - the cops see no difference between law abiding gun owners and violent criminals. I am beginning to see no difference between violent criminals and cops. 45clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca [mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca] On Behalf Of Larry James Fillo Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:10 PM To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: "America's police have become too militarized, cops or ... ...soldiers?"-the economist Interesting article and seems to apply to Canada, at least to some extent, too. http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21599349-americas-police-have-become-too-militarised-cops-or-soldiers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:11:26 -0700 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: RE: When will we rise- Digest V16 #196 I propose a neighbourhood watch system organized around our ranges and gun clubs. IDPA three gun training and competitions are a useful basis for training such groups, along with local intelligence gathering and monitoring of regional trends. Given the recent RCMP trend to using 911 calls to persecute the victims, 911 should be the last call anyone makes. The first should be to the locally approved neighbourhood watch. 45clive -----Original Message----- From: Larry James Fillo Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:12 PM To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Re: When will we rise- Digest V16 #196 On 2014-03-21, at 5:45 AM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 23:24:50 -0400 > From: TONY KATZ > Subject: Mexico legalizes vigilantes > > Check out this link to the story. when will we rise. > > http://news.ca.msn.com/world/mexico-legalizes-vigilantes-nabs-cartel-leader Citizens actively participating in protecting their communities is always the most effective. Mexico has has traditions of corruption in government that have handicapped it's development, economy and political life. If this idea spreads to other areas of Mexico, it's economic and social development will allow it to truly become a developed country. The Canadian legal system is complicated, expensive and has isolated itself from the public. It's driven by utopian fantasies about human nature and resistant to public participation or accountability. There is no cost/benefit analysis in the system. Policy is more driven by politicians fear of the agenda of the MainStream Media, than it is of fear of the opinion of the citizens. They who are unorganized in their communities, have less influence then the entrenched bureaucracy. I don't see significant political reform arising from Ottawa, unless there is local pressure exerted on provincial governments, who in turn pressure Ottawa or are able to administrate justice policies as per their individual circumstances and public wishes. When government or judicial policy causes a problem, the default reaction is to grant more money and power to ameliorate the effects of the policy rather than to change the policy. Citizen rights will get as much respect as citizens demand. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 6:36 pm From: "Dennis Young" Subject: Firearms policy should be based on fact by Solomon Friedman Firearms policy should be based on fact The SKS mentioned in this article is not an assault rifle. SOLOMON FRIEDMAN / DAILY NEWS MARCH 22, 2014 12:00 AM http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/firearms-policy-should-be-based-on-fact-1.916797 A March 15 article in the Nanaimo Daily News reported on an RCMP seizure of firearms, drugs and stolen goods. The author referred to the seized SKS semi-automatic rifles as "Soviet-era. .. assault rifles" and noted that the discovery of these firearms was "of particular concern, given the potential danger they pose to public safety." The author's concerns, it appears, stem from comments made by an officer with the Nanaimo RCMP, who decried the "concerning" nature of firearms that are "capable of firing more than one bullet in rapid succession." The officer expressed her view that semi-automatic firearms - that is, guns that are "capable of firing one bullet after another" - have been used in mass shootings. Coincidentally, these comments came mere days after the RCMP announced that they were "reclassifying" more than 10,000 widely-owned rifles - previously classified as "non-restricted" - and declared that these firearms were now prohibited. Possession of these firearms became a criminal offence. Absent government intervention, gun owners would have been forced to turn them in or face seizure and potential criminal consequences. To paraphrase Mark Twain, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and the opinions of RCMP officers about firearms law. The distortions in this news article begin with the seemingly interchangeable use of the terms "assault weapon" and "assault rifle." To the legally and technically unlettered, these phrases spark an automatic negative reaction. To those in the know, however, neither of them has any application to this news item and should never have appeared in this context. Let's explore them one at a time. First, what is an "assault weapon?" This is neither a technical description of a class of firearms nor a legal definition. The term "assault rifle," on the other hand, refers to a medium calibre military firearm that is select-fire - meaning that it is capable of both full-automatic fire and semi-automatic fire. Assault rifles are prohibited in Canada. Needless to say, the SKS mentioned in this article is not an assault rifle. The phrase "assault weapon" is often used to describe a firearm that is of military design or heritage, but is functionally no different from any commonly available semi-automatic civilian rifle. It is a term that is far more political than technical; it is used to sow fear in the minds of the uninformed. Semi-automatic firearms have been in existence since the 1890s. And today, they are commonly sold to qualified Canadians in sporting goods stores across the country. Nearly 2 million Canadians are licensed to own such firearms. They use, store and transport them safely and without incident on a daily basis. Every year, hundreds of thousands of licensed Canadians take their semi-automatic rifles - "assault weapons" according to the Nanaimo officer - and go hunting for deer, moose or elk. Hundreds of thousands more take them peaceably to shooting ranges and gun clubs. And, contrary to the histrionic hyperventilation of the good Mountie, mass shootings and blood baths do not result. Venison, sausage and the occasional perfect bullseye? That's a different story. Canadians should make decisions about firearms policy based on fact and empirical evidence. Too many gun laws have been passed in this country based on an appeal to ignorance and emotion. An informed citizenry demands better. And a first step to an informed populace is a well informed press. It is understandable that a newspaper would seek comment from law enforcement officials about the nature and legal status of firearms. Unfortunately, when it comes to the RCMP and guns, politics and personal opinion seem to trump facts and law. Much to the detriment of this otherwise fine publication, the only actual "assault weapon" featured in this particular article was police misinformation. And the result? Nothing less than a veritable assault on the truth, reason and common sense. "Solomon Friedman is an Ottawa criminal defence lawyer and an expert on firearms law. He is the co-author of the Annotated Firearms Act and has testified before numerous Parliamentary committees about guns and gun law. He can be reached at solomon@edelsonlaw.ca mailto:solomon@edelsonlaw.ca or on Twitter @firearmslaw. - See more at: http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/firearms-policy-should-be-based-on-fact-1.916797#sthash.EsoP1SiT.dpuf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 19:24:56 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Police keep quiet about cell-tracking technology http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUNSHINE_WEEK_POLICE_SURVEILLANCE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-22-10-40-27 Police keep quiet about cell-tracking technology By JACK GILLUM Associated Press Mar 22, 10:40 AM EDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- Police across the country may be intercepting phone calls or text messages to find suspects using a technology tool known as Stingray. But they're refusing to turn over details about its use or heavily censoring files when they do. Police say Stingray, a suitcase-size device that pretends it's a cell tower, is useful for catching criminals, but that's about all they'll say. For example, they won't disclose details about contracts with the device's manufacturer, Harris Corp., insisting they are protecting both police tactics and commercial secrets. The secrecy - at times imposed by nondisclosure agreements signed by police - is pitting obligations under private contracts against government transparency laws. Even in states with strong open records laws, including Florida and Arizona, little is known about police use of Stingray and any rules governing it. A Stingray device tricks all cellphones in an area into electronically identifying themselves and transmitting data to police rather than the nearest phone company's tower. Because documents about Stingrays are regularly censored, it's not immediately clear what information the devices could capture, such as the contents of phone conversations and text messages, what they routinely do capture based on how they're configured or how often they might be used. In one of the rare court cases involving the device, the FBI acknowledged in 2011 that so-called cell site simulator technology affects innocent users in the area where it's operated, not just a suspect police are seeking. Earlier this month, journalist Beau Hodai and the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona sued the Tucson Police Department, alleging in court documents that police didn't comply with the state's public-records law because they did not fully disclose Stingray-related records and allowed Harris Corp. to dictate what information could be made public. Revelations about surveillance programs run by the federal National Security Agency have driven a sustained debate since last summer on the balance between privacy and government intrusion. Classified NSA documents, leaked to news organizations, showed the NSA was collecting telephone records, emails and video chats of millions of Americans who were not suspected of crimes. That debate has extended to state and local governments. News organizations in Palm Springs, Calif.; Tallahassee, Fla.; Sacramento, Calif., and Pittsburgh are among those that have been denied records about Stingrays or Stingray-like devices, including details of contracts that Harris has with government agencies. In a response to a records request from the Tallahassee Democrat newspaper about Florida's use of cell-tracking technology, the state's top police agency provided a four-page, heavily censored document signed by a police investigator. The newspaper reported that the document referred to guidelines concerning the purchase of items and sought the department's agreement to the "provisions/content of the Non-Disclosure Agreement." The Desert Sun of Palm Springs made a similar request to the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department, which said it had to maintain secrecy even though the newspaper found information online about cell site simulators. And in Sacramento, the local sheriff's office told a TV station it would "be inappropriate for us to comment about any agency that may be using the technology" in light of a Harris nondisclosure agreement. Many of the requests were part of an effort to investigate the devices by Gannett Co. Inc., which publishes USA Today and owns other newspapers and television stations around the country. "I don't see how public agencies can make up an agreement with a private company that breaks state law," said David Cuillier, the director of the University of Arizona's journalism school and a national expert on public-records laws. "We can't have the commercial sector running our governments for us. These public agencies need to be forthright and transparent." A representative for Melbourne, Fla.-based Harris Corp. declined to comment or elaborate on how the company's agreements comport with open records laws. Court documents in Hodai's case show Harris' agreement required the Tucson city government not to "discuss, publish, release or disclose any information" about its products without the company's written consent. The agreement also required the city to contact Harris when it receives public-records requests about a "protected product," like a Stingray, so that the company can "challenge any such request in court." The police department declined to comment on Hodai's lawsuit. He had sought Harris contracts and police emails about how the technology is used. Email records show a Harris contract manager advised a Tucson police sergeant on what records couldn't be released to the public; the manager relied on the U.S. Freedom of Information Act, which governs records of the executive branch of the federal government. Nathan Freed Wessler, a staff attorney with the ACLU, said there's often a distinction in public-records laws to protect bona fide trade secrets - such as circuit board diagrams - as opposed to broader information like agency policies governing a Stingray's use or purchase agreements. He said police in Florida have declined to tell judges about the use of Stingrays because of nondisclosure agreements. A December 2013 investigation by USA Today found roughly 1 in 4 law enforcement agencies it surveyed had performed tower dumps, and slightly fewer owned a Stingray. But the report also said 36 additional agencies refused to provide details on their use, with most denying the newspaper's public-records requests. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, March 22, 2014 10:58 pm From: "Dennis Young" Subject: Civil Advantage and Canada's NFA Working Together Civil Advantage and Canada's NFA Working Together http://civiladvantage.com/news.php?news=0 Civil Advantage is now working with Canada's National Firearms Association. Following the Reclassification of the Swiss Arms familiy of rifles and the CZ858 from non-restricted to prohibited, both Civil Advantage and the NFA have chosen to lead by example. That example is to work together and bring all our resources and talents together to confront the threat against legal, lawful firearms ownership in Canada. The NFA made the following announcement on social media yesterday March 2, 2014 NFA\CIVIL ADVANTAGE PARTNERSHIP Canada's National Firearms Association is proud to announce a productive discussion has occurred Between Civil Advantage's CEO Rod Giltaca and NFA EVP Shawn Bevins. Rod has produced some excellent educational videos with regards to many aspects of the horrible laws found within the Firearms Act. Rod a Father, Businessman, law abiding firearms owner, activist and NFA member. His commitment to our community and his level of activism has gained him respect amongst his peers. He is a fine gentleman. Rod has agreed to work with the NFA to promote our common interests of freedom, liberty and responsible firearms legislation. Please support Rod's selfless and voluntary efforts as he does what he does for the benefit of us all. Stay tuned for collaborations between Civil Advantage and Canada's National Firearms Association! 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Our current offering includes: Introduction to Firearms (for beginners) Canadian Firearms Safety Course (PAL certification) Basic and advanced rifle and pistol training Private individual and group training Corporate functions, team development Canadian Firearms Safety Course (CFSC) Instructor, Rod Giltaca Rod is a firearms enthusiast and an advocate for civilian firearm ownership. He is also an entrepreneur and Canadian businessman. As a business development professional and founder of YWire Technologies Inc., Rod travels across North America working with clients such as the US Government, US Military, and Fortune 20 Companies. This experience in communication has contributed greatly to his passion, teaching civilians about firearm safety and sharing his adoration of the sport. Rod is a certified Canadian Firearms Safety Course instructor and is proficient with pistols, rifles and shotguns. He has trained on use of force, high risk entry, warrant service and simunition training including numerous live fire courses in combat rifle and pistol. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:09:27 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: The Rule of Law, eh? Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 09:41:39 -0700 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: A philosophical overview of Harper and the RCMP > "To those who incorrectly believe we have the "rule of law" and are > protected from anarchy, secure in our rights and that collapse cannot > possibly happen to western civilization, you are in the process of > being proven incorrect. The "rule of law" has been replaced by "rule > of judicial discretion". This is arbitrary "rule of man" which > means that anarchists and those who coerce them now occupy the bench. > This is the exact same problem (of slavery and impossibility of > peaceful coexistence) that our far wiser freedom fighting > ancestors successfully dealt with.. The functional civilization > they bequeathed us has been rationalized away. If we want it back, > we must seize it back. Whining to those whose survival depends on > their continued crimes is futile. The key is to make sure that "crime > does not pay"." http://www.nazisociopaths.org/modules/article/view.article.php/c1/37 In general terms, of course. 45clive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- One step forward would be the right to trial by jury. Most Cdn. trials(f are decided completely by lawyers who apply to the govt. for a judgeship job, then are politically appointed as a judge, who then live off their govt's payroll. Fair-minded(d judges may exist but there's too much doubt and that's what makes all the difference. Yours in Tyranny, Joe Gingrich White Fox source: Cdn. Charter of rights and freedoms d) to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal; f) except in the case of an offence under military law tried before a military tribunal, to the benefit of trial by jury where the maximum punishment for the offence is imprisonment for five years or a more severe punishment; ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V16 #199 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)