From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #579 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Wednesday, June 28 2006 Volume 09 : Number 579 In this issue: Study: gun registry may help cut costs Canada's gun registry researched French designer's gun series represents ties between money, war GUN SUSPECT OUT ON BAIL Re: Interesting gun grabber article [COLUMN] Deterring crime earns judge reward Alpers, Wendy, Rock, martin, Annie and other gun grabbers Re: French designer's gun series represents ties between "Re: French designer's gun series represents ties between Three people in custody after downtown standoff B.C. laws... Why the anti gun groups hate firearms owners Mounties get more than 1,000 guns, plus rocket launcher, in gun letters to the Nipawin Journal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:45:28 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Study: gun registry may help cut costs PUBLICATION: The Whitehorse Star DATE: 2006.06.27 SECTION: World PAGE: 9 COLUMN: Briefs SOURCE: CP DATELINE: UNITED NATIONS WORD COUNT: 153 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Study: gun registry may help cut costs - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Despite expensive overruns, Canada's gun registry may be saving the country money by helping to reduce costs associated with gun violence, a Swiss research institute argued Monday. The Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies released its report, Small Arms Survey 2006, in New York on the opening day of a UN conference on ways to deal with the illicit trade in small arms and light weapons. Among other gun-related issues, the report says Bill C-68, which created the federal gun registry in Canada, ''appears to be considerably more cost-effective than previously believed when considering possible savings in terms of firearms violence reduction.'' Researcher Nicolas Florquin told a news conference: ''Drawing from existing costing studies in that country, we find that the decrease in gun injuries and gun deaths since 1995 actually shows that Canada may be saving up to $1.4 billion Canadian dollars a year.'' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:45:39 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Canada's gun registry researched PUBLICATION: The Telegram (St. John's) DATE: 2006.06.27 SECTION: National/International News PAGE: A7 COLUMN: News in brief WORD COUNT: 139 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Canada's gun registry researched - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Despite expensive overruns, Canada's gun registry may be saving the country money by helping to reduce costs associated with gun violence, a Swiss research institute argued Monday. The Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies released its report, Small Arms Survey 2006, in New York on the opening day of a UN conference on ways to deal with the illicit trade in small arms and light weapons. Researcher Nicolas Florquin told a news conference, Drawing from existing costing studies in that country, we find that the decrease in gun injuries and gun deaths since 1995 actually shows that Canada may be saving up to $1.4 billion Canadian dollars a year. The Swiss report acknowledges proving a direct causal link with the gun registry is difficult but argues that mortality and morbidity figures suggest stronger controls do contribute. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:46:08 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: French designer's gun series represents ties between money, war PUBLICATION: Times Colonist (Victoria) DATE: 2006.06.28 EDITION: Final SECTION: New Homes PAGE: D7 BYLINE: John Mackie SOURCE: CanWest News Service DATELINE: VANCOUVER ILLUSTRATION: Colour Photo: Ward Perrin, CanWest News Service / French designer Philippe Starck has created a line of lamps that are gold-plated models of real-life guns, including a Beretta automatic bedside lamp, left, and a Kalashnikov AK-47 submachine-gun table lamp. ; Colour Photo: Ward Perrin, CanWest News Service / The floor lamp in Starck's gun series is a replica of an M16 assault rifle. WORD COUNT: 350 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lamps trigger style statement: French designer's gun series represents ties between money, war - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ VANCOUVER - Lamps usually don't make political statements, or shock people. But French designer Philippe Starck has managed to do both with his line of gun lamps for Flos, the Italian lighting company. All three lamps in the series are scale models of real life guns. The bedside lamp is a Beretta automatic, the table lamp is a Kalashnikov AK-47 submachine-gun, and the floor lamp is an M16 assault rifle. "They are definitely done with a sense of humour," says Ross Taylor, owner of Gabriel Ross, a Victoria custom-furniture manufacturer and retailer that carries Flos products. Taylor suspects there will be a wide range of reactions to the Starck lamps. "I love them and I think I probably will bring them in at some point." Inform Interiors in Vancouver's Gastown district has just brought in the series. The bedside Beretta is $1,400, the table Kalashnikov is $2,400, and the floor M16 is $3,900. Lots of money for a lamp, or a gun, but Inform sold a Kalashnikov a couple of days after they came in. Inform's Paul Sjaarda says Starck is "exploring violence and war in the world" with the series. Each gun represents a different gun-producing society: the Beretta for Europe, the Kalashnikov for the East (Russia) and the M16 for the West (the United States). Each gun lamp is made from moulded aluminum and features 24-carat gold plating, and is topped with a black shade. "The gold of the weapons represents the collusion between money and war," Starck explains on his website. "The black shade signifies death." Part of Starck's commission for designing the series will go to Mikhail Kalashnikov, designer of the gun that bears his name. Starck explains why in an ironic note on his website. "Light, functional, affordable and elegant, with over 100 million copies officially produced to date, the Kalashnikov is one of the industrial design success stories of our age," he writes. "[But] Mr. Kalashnikov never received any royalties for this design. He often complains about it. Thus, I intend to pay a commission for the sales of the model that replicates his invention." Starck is also donating part of his commission to Doctors Without Borders, a humanitarian organization that "delivers emergency aid to people affected by armed conflict, epidemics, and natural or man-made disasters" around the world. - -- with files from Times Colonist staff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:46:21 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: GUN SUSPECT OUT ON BAIL PUBLICATION: The Calgary Sun DATE: 2006.06.28 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 16 BYLINE: NADIA MOHARIB WORD COUNT: 104 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GUN SUSPECT OUT ON BAIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The man charged in connection with a shooting earlier this month is out on bail. Antonio Joel Findlater, 23, turned himself in last week after warrants were issued for his arrest in relation to the double-shooting and stabbing that left two men hurt at a Marlborough Community hall concert June 18. His lawyer Adriano Iovinelli said Findlater was granted bail on Monday and released after posting $1,500 cash. Findlater is required to comply with several conditions, including a curfew, no contact with the alleged victims and a weapons prohibition. Cops are still investigating the incident, in which one man was shot eight times and stabbed and another suffered a non-critical gunshot wound. Findlater is charged with assault with a weapon and possession of a weapon. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:24:36 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: Re: Interesting gun grabber article - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Mills" > As usual, I was looking for something else and came across this little > gem on the CFGC's media relations; note the part "What Makes the News?"... > > > http://www.femmesetvilles.org/seminar/english/pres_en/baill_pres_en.htm > > To Hand on the Message: The Role of Medias > > Amélie Baillargeon > Executive Director, Coalition for Gun Control > Montréal, Québec, Canada > > Summary Some good advice here !!Perhaps we could turn this around and use it against them by employing their methods ? ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:34:51 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: [COLUMN] Deterring crime earns judge reward http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Columnists/Brodbeck_Tom/2006/06/28/1656853.html Deterring crime earns judge reward By TOM BRODBECK Wed, June 28, 2006 I want all the soft-headed, do-gooder social worker types to pay close attention to the jail sentence handed down by provincial court Judge Richard Chartier this week. I want them to examine this case because they need a little lesson on the sentencing principle of deterrence -- a concept that seems to be falling out of fashion in our courts these days. Russell Spence, 20, was caught stealing car stereos earlier this year. He's been caught before -- six times -- and each time was given a slap on the wrist for his actions. It's little wonder he didn't change his behaviour. He quickly realized that stealing car stereos was not taken seriously in the courts, so he kept doing it. The element of deterrence was absent from his previous 18 convictions. That's why Judge Chartier, who gave Spence 14 months in jail, threw the book at him. "You're out of control, I don't know what else to tell you," said Chartier. "Enough is enough." In the Criminal Code, this is called deterrence. It's not vengeance or revenge or any of those sinister buzz words the anti-jail folks like to use to further their cause. It's designed to deter the person from committing further crimes. It's in Sec. 718 of the Criminal Code, which says that sentences must include one of several objectives, including "to denounce unlawful conduct," and "to deter the offender and other persons from committing offences." It's right there in black and white -- a section that appears to be whited-out in the copies of some people's Criminal Codes (including many judges). There are other objectives, too, including the need to "separate offenders from society, where necessary," and "to promote a sense of responsibility in offenders, and acknowledgment of the harm done to victims and to the community." I like the last one. However, the one that seems to get the most attention in courts these days is Sec. 718 (c), "to assist in rehabilitating offenders." That's the wrist-slapper -- the coddle clause. It's the one that often trumps other sentencing principles, including deterrence. Not this time. What Chartier ruled is that people must have respect for the law. And that if people like Spence continually flout the law, they're going to face serious consequences. We all want Spence to rehabilitate himself and turn his life around. If he wants to change, he can start by taking some programming at Headingley jail. But his rehabilitation can't come at the expense of deterrence. In fact, the deterrence is part of the rehabilitation. For that, Chartier is the winner of this column's Hard-Ball Award, given out to judges who understand what justice really is. It's the flip side to the Eight-Ball Award. And it's designed to give judges credit where credit is due. Chartier definitely deserves credit for this sentence. Not only does it deter Spence specifically, it also denounces and deters his crime generally. And if more judges handed down similar sentences, car thieves and stereo thieves would start getting the message that if they break the law they're going to do time behind bars. Right now the perception is that if you get caught stealing car stereos, you get off scot-free. Chartier made a small step toward changing that this week. Tom Brodbeck is the Sun's city columnist. He can be reached by e-mail at: tbrodbeck@wpgsun.com. Letters to the editor should be sent to letters@wpgsun.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:16:40 -0600 (CST) From: "ross" Subject: Alpers, Wendy, Rock, martin, Annie and other gun grabbers All the above are quite smug here at home and where they live when they go on the offensive and try to remove firearms from law abiding citizens. All the above live in what we term a civilized society. A society where the Police protect us (don't get me started). So they feel safe, without fear of being mugged, robbed, raped, murdered etc Now lets place these same people in a country like ...hmm .lets say Iraq, or Nigeria, or Indonesia. In some of these places. you get kidnapped because you are white, a non believer or just because someone wakes up in the morning and wants to kidnap you. bad guys with guns, grab helpless white people off the streets of ....... (whatever city you want. Now these same white folk are exposed to the banditry and lawlessness of the underworld. Without this type of exposure, the above type of people will never understand what it means to be defenseless, because no one has as yet harmed them. Their idea of the world is this "why should they (recreational firearms owners) have the means to themselves when we don't". A very good question which rather than turn the law abiding gun owners into defenseless victims, there above named stooges should learn to protect themselves either through martial arts or by firearms. So firearms owners are being constantly attacked by those state stooges who really have little or no experience in true life threatening fear (Wendy wasn't at the ecole polytechnique). They only guess at it, and then decide they are correct in their cause. Fear is something that once you experience the hi pucker factor it can bring, you don't ever want to be in that position again. , and this is something that the bringers of our gun laws don't understand. There is a segment of society that is independent, owns guns, takes care of themselves, then there is the other segment that doesn't know what to do, sucks on the government tit, and is always willing to have someone else protect them and their families, or rely on the Police to protect them. Too lazy to look after themselves, as they go through life in fear. what a lousy way to live, brought to you by the stooges who gave us C-68 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:03:01 -0600 (CST) From: 10x <10x@telus.net> Subject: Re: French designer's gun series represents ties between At 12:46 PM 6/28/2006 -0600, you wrote: > > >PUBLICATION: Times Colonist (Victoria) >DATE: 2006.06.28 >EDITION: Final >SECTION: New Homes >PAGE: D7 >BYLINE: John Mackie >SOURCE: CanWest News Service >DATELINE: VANCOUVER >ILLUSTRATION: Colour Photo: Ward Perrin, CanWest News Service / >French designer Philippe Starck has created a line of lamps that are >gold-plated models of real-life guns, including a Beretta automatic >bedside lamp, left, and a Kalashnikov AK-47 submachine-gun table lamp. ; >Colour Photo: Ward Perrin, CanWest News Service / The floor lamp in >Starck's gun series is a replica of an M16 assault rifle. >WORD COUNT: 350 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Lamps trigger style statement: French designer's gun series represents >ties between money, war > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >VANCOUVER - Lamps usually don't make political statements, or shock >people. But French designer Philippe Starck has managed to do both with >his line of gun lamps for Flos, the Italian lighting company. > >All three lamps in the series are scale models of real life guns. The >bedside lamp is a Beretta automatic, the table lamp is a Kalashnikov >AK-47 submachine-gun, and the floor lamp is an M16 assault rifle. > >"They are definitely done with a sense of humour," says Ross Taylor, >owner of Gabriel Ross, a Victoria custom-furniture manufacturer and >retailer that carries Flos products. Are not replica firearms, even if part of a lamp, prohibited under the current firearms laws of Canada? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:39:59 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Jordan Subject: "Re: French designer's gun series represents ties between I found pics on the Vic Times Colonist website. Cute, but very expensive. http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/story.html?id=b743b3ff-534a-45ec-be63-e0c732d7a2ef "Inform Interiors in Vancouver's Gastown district has just brought in the series. The bedside Beretta is $1,400, the table Kalashnikov is $2,400, and the floor M16 is $3,900. Lots of money for a lamp, or a gun, but Inform sold a Kalashnikov a couple of days after they came in." Also, what I found rather interesting is the part about Mikhail Kalashnikov. Quote: "Part of Starck's commission for designing the series will go to Mikhail Kalashnikov, designer of the gun that bears his name. Starck explains why in an ironic note on his website." "Light, functional, affordable and elegant, with over 100 million copies officially produced to date, the Kalashnikov is one of the industrial design success stories of our age," he writes. "[But] Mr. Kalashnikov never received any royalties for this design. He often complains about it. Thus, I intend to pay a commission for the sales of the model that replicates his invention." Philippe Starck's website: http://www.philippe-starck.com/ You have to go to his "lamps" section, under the left-hand "menu", then use the little arrows on the right to find the Gun Lamps pic, then click on it, then again, use those little arrows to get to his comments. Also, there is a rather interesting comment about the "workmanship" about his products in his "forum", again under the menu tab on the left side that you should probably take a look at ;) I remember a number of years or so ago "we" had a story about how Mikhail Kalashnikov was trying to set up a patent lawsuit to get a royalty on every copy of his invention, of which is currently being reproduced in God only knows how many countries? So is the Russian Republic as well apparently. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47 See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47#Production_outside_of_Russia Yet we just had a BBC story about "how sorry Mikhail was" to see his creation, "in the hands of those Bin Ladins" as the article supposedly quoted him as saying. So he/they want to get paid for his/their invention, [rightfully so, I guess?], but he only wants it in certain hands? Now isn't that an odd contradiction? Well, he is entitled to his opinion, this is true, but it's kind of like when the first A-Bomb test in New Mexico, where Oppenheimer was quoted as saying as the mushroom cloud rose into the sky; "I am Shiva- the destroyer of Worlds." I believe "we" call it; "Unintended consequences". Once the Genie is out of the bottle, you can't just stuff him back in. You live with the decisions and actions that you make and do. We all have regrets about many things that "we" do in our lives. That's just how life and the World is. I didn't invent the place, it is, is what it is. There is a wonderful quote out of the movie Kingdom of Heaven(2005)* [The DC release as the Theatrical release sucks.] "You see, none of us chose our end really. A king may move a man, a father may claim a son. But remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God you cannot say "but I was told by others to do thus" or that "virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that." Ref: http://imdb.com/title/tt0320661/ Later-DRGJ *Yes, I know. Jordan- shut the Hell up about that infernal movie already! LOL! - -drgj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:03:32 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Three people in custody after downtown standoff http://www.680news.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20060628_153156_5960 Three people in custody after downtown standoff June 28, 2006 - 4:42 pm By: Anne Winstanley Three people are now in custody after a gun call in the Shuter and Parliament area. It forced a road closure and the lockdown of a nearby elementary school. Shuter street has now been reopened. It began around 2 p.m. when Toronto police on bicycles chased a man who dumped a large amount of ammunition and fled into a house at 30 Treffan street. That led to a standoff, but through police negotiations, the man surrendered. ETF officers are still on the scene searching the house for weapons. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:03:58 -0600 (CST) From: "Jim S." Subject: B.C. laws... Todd - > I admitted in court to owning an MP 40 which while registerable as > 'restricted' in Ontario and Alberta at the time, was not in BC. Phew! I knew there were good reasons for living in Alberta over B.C., but who'da thunk a little thing like a firearm would make the chasm between the Left Coast and Wild Rose Country seem so vast. That sounds harsh, indeed. Jim Szpajcher St. Paul, AB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:25:23 -0600 (CST) From: "ross" Subject: Why the anti gun groups hate firearms owners I ran across this quote, and it clearly sums up why Wendy and her ilks want our guns "A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:50:54 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Mounties get more than 1,000 guns, plus rocket launcher, in gun http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/28062006/2/national-mounties-1-000-guns-plus-rocket-launcher-gun-amnesty.html Mounties get more than 1,000 guns, plus rocket launcher, in gun amnesty Wed Jun 28, 07:26 PM EST VANCOUVER (CP) - More than 1,000 weapons - and one rocket launcher - have been turned over to the RCMP so far this month during a B.C. gun amnesty. The weapons include 72 registered handguns, 124 unregistered handguns, 72 unregistered semi-automatic rifles, 34 prohibited firearms and 224 other weapons, such as air pellet rifles. RCMP Staff Sgt. John Ward conceded that the rocket launcher was a surprise. "The rocket launcher, or grenade propeller, was turned in by a couple in Burnaby who found it in the early 1970s in a home that they had just purchased," said Ward. "They didn't know what to do with it and were afraid they might be in trouble if they turned it in, so they kept it in the attic all these years and then decided to turn it in." The weapon belonged to the Canadian army and was of 1960s vintage, said Ward. The Mounties say in addition to the firearms, they have collected more than 44,000 rounds of ammunition. The majority of weapons were .22s and long-barrel weapons "but we've seized a number of weapons that were quite interesting." He said Kelowna RCMP received a Sterling sub-machine gun and also a prohibited semi-automatic battle rifle. "There's a lot of ordnance out there that people for whatever reason are uncomfortable turning it in because they might feel they might be responsible for something like not storing it properly or not having it registered," said Ward. RCMP and local police forces around the province are taking part in the gun amnesty, which runs until Friday. Whether registered or unregistered, if the guns haven't been used in a criminal offence, people can turn them in without facing any charges. But don't take them into a police station - call the police and they will come and pick them up. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:55:52 -0600 (CST) From: Joe Subject: letters to the Nipawin Journal http://www.nipawinjournal.com/index.php?id=390 Letters to the Editor Wednesday June 28, 2006 Nipawin Journal - Editor's note: Last weeks letter from Marvin Wiebe provoked a flood of mail to the Journal. In his letter Mr. Wiebe was critical of gun owners who believe possessing guns for defence is a fundamental civil right. Here's how our readers responded to Mr. Wiebe's letter. What's in a name? Dear Editor, In Mr. Wiebe's letter to the Nipawin Journal (June 21, 2006), he states that "gun" is defined in the dictionary as a weapon. He is correct. I would ask him to look up knife in the dictionary. Here is what mine said: noun - a cutting or stabbing instrument with a sharp blade, verb: to cut or stab with a knife. For Mr. Wiebe to suggest that all guns are weapons "to coerce, maim and kill humans as well as other forms of life" seems unreasonable to me. Yes, people kill people with guns, knives and countless other weapons, but I still believe that a law abiding citizen in Canada has a right to own a firearm. Mr. Wiebe, do you believe that if guns were banned in Canada, that criminals would have no guns? Fortunately, for all Canadians, the fact that we can own guns helps keep the crime rate down. Many countries that have imposed a total ban on firearms, find that their crime rate increases. On the weekend of July 17 and 18, I attended a "Sporting Clays Shoot" hosted by the Nipawin Fish and Game. Close to 100 people attended the event. Many guns were present and no humans or other life forms were maimed or killed.Yes, many people use guns for recreation - not as weapons. Please remember this Mr. Wiebe: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Brad Reed, Codette Not all gun uses are "bad" Talk about "fearmongering" and "paranoia"! Letter writer Marvin Wiebe seems to have both down to a science. According to him, every gun is used as a "weapon" to "attack" and "set upon with violence, force." Every gun. Every day. Of course, this is patently absurd. Rational people know that guns are simply inanimate objects, with no will or volition of their own. It is only through the will and volition of a human agent that a gun can be put to use - and it is only that person's will and volition that determines whether or not that gun use is "good" or "bad". Because rational people also know that not all gun uses are "bad" - that's why cops have them. In fact, Canadians employ firearms for defence of self, others, and property some 80,000 times a year. Firearms as used for lawful purposes and pastimes literally millions of times each year, to no ill effect. From the time of their first manufacture, guns have been used to protect lives from those thugs who would unlawfully coerce, rob, maim, rape or kill, and from other nations who would seek to subject others to dictatorship and tyranny. From the time of their first manufacture, guns have been used to feed people and to control and manage wildlife populations. Before Canada became a nation of wimps, we had some of the most feared fighting men in combat, who gave their lives to defend our rights. Even today, this very day, our brave men and women are putting their lives on the line trying to bring peace and stability to others. Pretty noble, I'd say. Bruce N. Mills, Dundas, Ont. Definition of "guns"? I don't believe that knowing that it's our civil right to own firearms will cause fear and paranoia. I don't know what dictionary Mr. Wiebe used to find his definition of "guns." I looked it up in the Merriam Webster's and the definition of a gun was a piece of ordnance usually with high velocity or a device that throws a projectile. I almost get the impression that Mr. Wiebe is opposed to gun (weapon) ownership. I've owned guns and hunted for recreation since I was 15 years old. I am now in my 60's and still active in doing so. Herman Cook, Nipawin Firearms most effective means of self defense I read "The Bottom Line", Marvin Wiebe, Wednesday June 21, 2006. Wiebe's letter is full of accusations, denouncements and vitriol which offer little substance to a discussion. However, there is merit in discussing our right to have arms for defense. This is especially true in view of the Canadian government's disarmament policy of law-abiding Canadians. This policy is in accordance with its United Nations' commitment. The federal government is using the Firearms Act of 1995 as a tool for civilian disarmament. But criminals do not tend to license themselves nor do they register their firearms so they will not be disarmed. Who will be there to protect us? How will we protect ourselves? William Blackstone, an 18th Century legal scholar, wrote "Commentaries on the Laws of England," which remains the nearest thing Britain has to a constitution. In it, Blackstone emphasized that perhaps the most compelling reason for the right of individual firearm ownership is the protection of all our remaining civil liberties. For example, how useful are these words from the Charter, "the right to life, liberty and security of person" without citizens at the same time having a means to fulfill those rights? Words on paper may have meaning in theory but are useless in practice. When you need a firearm nothing else will do. Firearms are the cheapest, most effective means of self defense ever invented. However, the use of self defense is not a wrong or right issue. It is a moral issue. The decision to use a right is dependent upon your own free will to exercise it or not. Mr. Wiebe, if you do not wish to protect yourself or your family that is your decision but do not impede others from exercising their rights. Historically registration and licensing schemes have been part of "gun control" programs for citizen disarmament. Programs using these schemes made possible the calculated mass murder of between 70 and 170 million people by their own rogue governments. Meanwhile many dictators along with and members of the United Nations continue a world wide disarmament program using much the same schemes employed in Canada, the UN's model nation. Only the governments and criminals will have firearms while the law-abiding will be disarmed. On a different note; it is time for the opposition Liberals, the NDP and the Bloc political parties to openly apologize to the Canadian Firearms Community for foisting and continuing to support a biased, unjust, undemocratic and ineffective gun law upon innocent Canadian citizens. Joe Gingrich,White Fox ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #579 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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