From att!hound.edaca.ingr.com!crphilli Tue Feb 8 13:41:54 1994 Received: from att!hound.edaca.ingr.com by emsr0.emsr.att.com (4.1/EMS main.cf 1.33 7/21/93 (SMI-4.1/SVR4)) id AA21032; Tue, 8 Feb 94 13:41:54 EST Received: by gw1.att.com; Tue Feb 8 13:44:53 EST 1994 Received: from dazixca.edaca.ingr.com (dazixca.dazixca.ingr.com) by ingr.ingr.com (5.65c/1.920611) id AA08080; Tue, 8 Feb 1994 12:44:40 -0600 Received: from hound.edaca.ingr.com by dazixca.edaca.ingr.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00654; Tue, 8 Feb 94 10:44:37 PST Received: by hound.edaca.ingr.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06722; Tue, 8 Feb 94 10:45:20 PST From: crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com (Ron Phillips) Message-Id: <9402081845.AA06722@hound.edaca.ingr.com> Subject: Armed Citizen - '94 To: lvc@cbvox1.att.com Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 10:45:19 PST X-Mailer: ELM [version 06.00.01.12 (2.3 PL11)] Status: R THE ARMED CITIZEN +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Studies indicate that firearms are used over 2 million times a year for personal protection, and that presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents crime in many instances. Shooting usually can be justified only where crime constitutes an immediate, imminent threat to life or limb, or, in some cases, property. Anyone is free to quote or reproduce these accounts. Send clippings to: "The Armed Citizen," 11250 Waples Mill Rd., Fairfax, VA 22030. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ARMED CITIZEN - JANUARY 1994 ===================================================================== San Francisco bus driver Hal Womack professes to be a peaceful man, but he started carrying a pistol after a 1982 attack left him with permanent eye injuries. Womack had to use the gun when he was again attacked after trying to put two profane men off the bus. Womack stepped off the bus after his attacker fled, but the man returned and threatened him again, prompting Womack to pull his gun and fire twice, wounding the man in the leg. (The Orange County Register, Santa Ana, CA 10/30/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Christopher Clouse is a Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, insurance agent who obviously believes that a pistol also constitutes a good policy. After talking with Clouse, a "customer" in the agency pulled a pistol and demanded money. Clouse got cash from the office, but also got his gun. After a brief struggle, Clouse shot the robber, putting him to flight. He was arrested later at a hospital where he had gone for treatment. (The Herald, Miami, FL, 10/30/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Robert Gehl was asleep in his Curtis Park, California, home, when two armed men forced their way inside. Awakened and alerted by the panic in his wife's voice, Gehl got a .357 Mag. revolver. When one intruder, with Gehl's wife in tow, burst through the bedroom door, Gehl ordered his wife to duck and fired twice, killing the man. The accomplice fled. (The Union, Sacramento, CA, 09/24/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Lamar Williams was working in the office of the Cleveland restaurant he co-owns when two armed teenagers broke in. When Williams walked out of the office, one of the thugs shot him in the arm, but Williams was able to pull his own gun and return fire. The two criminals fled, but police picked up two wounded suspects at a local hospital. (The Plain Dealer, Cleveland, OH, 09/18/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Abdel Ahmad moved to the United States to escape warfare in the Middle East, only to find himself at the front in the crime war in Phoenix. Held up at gunpoint, Ahmad "went a little crazy" and decided the robber wasn't going to escape. He grabbed his own gun, gave chase and after a shoot-out in which neither was hurt, held the crook at gunpoint for police, who affirmed Ahmad's actions. (The Arizona Republic, Phoenix, AZ, 10/22/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Awakened early one morning by his security system, Charles Tanner of Phoenix expected a cat to be the culprit, but took his .45 Colt just in case. Tanner opened his front door and found a man in his driveway. The man charged the homeowner and slammed through the screen door, prompting Tanner to fire four times, killing the intruder. "We had lots of firearms training. It all came back to me," said the former reserve county sheriff's deputy. (The Arizona Republic, Phoenix, AZ, 11/06/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Baltimore, Maryland, stockbroker John Slaughter was ready when a man broke into his home early one morning. Alerted by the sound of shattering glass downstairs, Slaughter got his shotgun and waited upstairs. Slaughter fired a fatal blast when the man came up the stairs and charged. Police, saying Slaughter acted in self-defense, expected no charges. He had lost more than $5,000 in property during a burglary of his home earlier this year. (The Sun, Baltimore, MD, 09/21/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Joe Carter was driving down a Hillsborough County street near St. Petersburg, Florida, one evening when a man jumped out and blocked his way. The man and two accomplices began pounding on and rocking Carter's truck, prompting Carter to draw his pistol and warn the trio away. When they didn't take the hint, Carter rolled the window down and fired a shot, wounding one man. Carter alerted police, who arrested a wounded suspect. (The Times, St. Petersburg, FL, 10/05/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Crime doesn't pay, even when you're married to your partner, a Washington, North Carolina, couple found out. Robert Griffin woke up early one morning to a commotion in his yard. When he looked outside, he saw the couple loading his lounge chairs into their van. Griffin armed himself and held the married perpetrators at gunpoint until police arrived. (The Daily News, Washington, NC, 10/22/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Aaron Smith was waiting outside the Crystal Springs, Mississippi, convenience store where his wife works when he heard her scream. He started inside, where a man was rifling the till and holding a gun to his wife's chest, but retreated when the gunman pointed the pistol at him. Smith grabbed a 12-ga. shotgun from his car, and when the crook exited the store, ordered him to stop. Instead of complying, the man raised his gun, and Smith killed him. (The Clarion-Ledger, Jackson, MS, 10/18/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Sue Atkins of Durham, North Carolina, appeared in this column in February 1993 after shooting a man who tried to rob her Western Union office/fish store. Atkins didn't need to shoot the man who attempted to rob the store this time--her fifth encounter with criminals--but she did chase him out. The man entered, asking about fish, but then threatened to kill Atkins. She pulled her handgun and chased the man, but lost him. Police promptly arrested a suspect. "I will fight back," said Atkins. (The Morning Star, Wilmington, NC, 10/06/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== A female clerk at a Stamford, Connecticut, area store noticed a man stuffing two videos into his pants before coming to the counter to pay for a magazine. When confronted, the man denied having the videos, so the clerk reached over the counter and grabbed them. When the "customer" threatened her, saying "you're sorry, you're dead," the clerk pulled a pistol and ordered him from the store. Police caught up with the would-be shoplifter a few blocks away, and noted that the clerk had a permit for the gun. (The Advocate, Stamford, CT, 10/25/93) ===================================================================== THE ARMED CITIZEN - FEBRUARY 1994 (??) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Studies indicate that firearms are used over 2 million times a year for personal protection, and that presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents crime in many instances. Shooting usually can be justified only where crime constitutes an immediate, imminent threat to life or limb, or, in some cases, property. Anyone is free to quote or reproduce these accounts. Send clippings to: "The Armed Citizen," 11250 Waples Mill Rd., Fairfax, VA 22030. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ===================================================================== Joseph D'Angelo's early morning sleep was shattered when his neighbor began screaming that a man was breaking into her Glascow, Delaware, area home. D'Angelo grabbed his gun and ran outside, where he found an intruder in the woman's yard. D'Angelo ordered the man to halt, but fired a fatal shot when the man approached him. The State Attorney General's office said D'Angelo would not face charges. (The News Journal, Wilmington, DE, 12/01/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Only two days after browsers had asked for details on the store's inventory and alarm system, John Sobran's Pittsburgh-area jewelry store was robbed at gunpoint. The robbery didn't go entirely as planned, however. As one thug grappled with Sobran's mother and threatened her with a pistol, Sobran emerged from a back office, wounded the would-be robber with a .45 and ended the attack. Two accomplices fled in a stolen car. "As far as I am concerned [Sobran] didn't do anything justifying criminal prosecution. No charges are forthcoming," said the local police chief. (The Post-Gazette, Pittsburgh, PA, 12/2/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Intent on protecting his sister from a former suitor who threatened her, Oroville, California, area resident Glen King armed himself with a 12-ga. shotgun and went to her house. When the former boyfriend tried to force his way into the home, King fired once through a rear door, wounding the man and stopping the intrusion. Police recommended no charges against King. (The Enterprise-Record, Chico, CA, 11/16/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== An attempted robbery at a Palmdale, California, market ended in death for a teenage robber when the victim and the clerk in another store pulled guns and fought back. Robbed at gunpoint by two of the teens, the shopkeeper grabbed his gun and followed them outside. When he ordered them to stop, they turned and fired. Return fire from the two vendors mortally wounded one of the crooks. The other two fled but were apprehended several hours later. (The Antelope Valley Press, Palmdale, CA, 11/11/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== "One of the patrons in the store got the drop on them," was how one police officer described the scene at a Waterbury, Connecticut, convenience store after a customer shot and killed one of two armed robbers. The men, armed with a sawed-off shotgun and pistol, entered the store, but before they could even lay their hands on the till, the customer pulled his .380 and fired. The other would-be crook fled. (The Republican-American, Waterbury, CT, 11/15/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Next-door neighbors Thomas Graham and Ken Whitson both know the language spoken by their dogs. Recognizing their pets' warning growls, the Bradenton, Florida, men, without knowing what the other was doing, went to investigate. Before leaving the house, Whitson grabbed a shotgun, and when the neighbors converged from opposite sides of the driveway, they captured a 41-year-old prowler between them. He was held for police. (The Herald, Bradenton, FL, 10/27/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== After checking out several apartments in the neighborhood, a would-be burglar attempted to break into Nathan Hunsinger's Savannah, Georgia, home. It proved to be a fatal mistake. Awakened by the noise of a back window being jimmied, Hunsinger warned the man away, then fired when his warning shot was ignored. Hunsinger's shots killed the man. Police said Hunsinger would face no charges. (The Morning News/Evening Press, Savannah, GA, 11/13/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Bessie Jones is 92 and confined to a wheelchair, hardly able to defend herself against the human predators that inhabit her Chicago neighborhood. What makes Jones their match, however, is her handgun. After a young thug broke and wheeled her from room to room looking for valuables, Jones managed to get her gun and warned the teenager off. When he ignored her, Jones fired and killed him. (The Sun Times, Chicago, IL, 11/09/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Walking home from a Bible study class, Ft. Wayne, Indiana, resident Keith Wallace was accosted by a man who claimed to have a gun and demanded money. Reaching into his pocket, Wallace produced his own, licensed, pistol, prompting the man to flee. (The Journal-Gazette, Ft. Wayne, IN, 11/13/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== A clerk at a Greenville, South Carolina, pawnshop didn't hesitate when two men entered the store and announced a robbery. Instead of waiting to see what the men would next do, the clerk jumped behind a partition, pulled a handgun and fired a shot. The two men ran from the store, uninjured. Police quickly apprehended two suspects, plus four suspected accomplices, confiscating two handguns. (The News, Greenville, SC, 11/12/93) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== "If I could have got my shotgun, they wouldn't have got nowhere," said William Odell about the men who apparently tried to burglarize his Roanoke, Virginia, area home. Investigating strange noises outside the house, Odell saw two armed men on his porch. When one fired a shot, Odell jumped back inside and grabbed his own revolver, prepared to fight it out, but the duo was beating a hasty retreat. To held them along, Odell shot out several windows of their getaway car. (The Times & World-News, Roanoke, VA, 10/16/93) ===================================================================== -- ************************************************************ * Ron Phillips crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com * * Senior Customer Engineer * * Intergraph Electronics * * 381 East Evelyn Avenue VOICE: (415) 691-6473 * * Mountain View, CA 94041 FAX: (415) 691-0350 * ************************************************************ From tribune.usask.ca!decwrl!parc!biosci!agate!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!news.ingr.com!baggins.dazixco.ingr.com!dazixca.dazixca.ingr.com!crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com Tue May 10 14:49:53 1994 Path: tribune.usask.ca!decwrl!parc!biosci!agate!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!uunet!news.ingr.com!baggins.dazixco.ingr.com!dazixca.dazixca.ingr.com!crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com From: crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com (Ron Phillips) Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: Armed Citizen - May '94 Date: 10 May 1994 17:18:54 GMT Organization: "Intergraph Electronics, Mountain View, CA" Lines: 139 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2qoflu$i42@dazixca.dazixca.ingr.com> Reply-To: crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com NNTP-Posting-Host: hound THE ARMED CITIZEN +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Studies indicate that firearms are used over 2 million times a year for personal protection, and that presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents crime in many instances. Shooting usually can be justified only where crime constitutes an immediate, imminent threat to life or limb, or, in some cases, property. Anyone is free to quote or reproduce these accounts. Send clippings to: "The Armed Citizen," 11250 Waples Mill Rd., Fairfax, VA 22030. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ===================================================================== The burglar who broke into Joseph Thompson's Saranac, Michigan, home hit Thompson in the face with a steel pipe as he slept, breaking Thompson's jaw. But that didn't stop Thompson from nabbing his assailant and holding him for police. The crook had stopped at the home earlier in the evening, professing car trouble, and returned later when Thompson was asleep and assaulted him. After a struggle, Thompson managed to get a rifle and held the intruder for police. (The Press, Grand Rapids, MI, 02/12/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== "He picked the wrong guy to pick on," was one Washington Court House, Ohio, resident's assessment of an armed robber who was killed by his intended mark. The armed, masked man entered the town pharmacy and demanded money, prompting pharmacist Larry Lehman to shoot and mortally wound the gunman. (The Dispatch, Columbus, OH, 02/24/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Brenda Jones, a 24-year-old University of Virginia graduate student, was leaving her Charlottesville, Virginia, apartment when a man grabbed her from behind. During the ensuing struggle, Jones and her attacker fell back into the apartment, where Jones managed to break free of her assailant. Jones sprinted to her bedroom and grabbed her revolver. Training it on the criminal, she demanded he leave, which he did. (The Daily Progress, Charlottesville, VA, 02/11/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Bernie Ames, a Hempstead, New York, bookstore owner, didn't count on his 69th birthday being quite so exciting. Ames was behind the counter of his store when a crack addict walked in and demanded money. Ames threw a bag of money at the robber and pulled his own .38 and fired. Wounded, the crook fled, but was quickly apprehended. Police, affirming Ames' actions, said the drug abuser had a long criminal record. (Newsday, Long Island, NY, 02/11/94 ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== "This is my ID and this is a robbery," a teenager told San Diego liquor store owner Norman Mansour while drawing a gun and demanding money. In response, Mansour grabbed his wrist, and the culprit sprayed the store with bullets. Reaching under the counter for his revolver, Mansour traded shots with the teen and his accomplice. The pair fled, but two suspects were captured the next day, apparently as they tried to retrieve the handgun they had abandoned before fleeing the store. (The Union-Tribune, San Diego, CA, 02/03/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Robert White was reading his morning paper at this Tacoma, Washington, home when his wife informed him there was an intruder in the basement. White, 73, got his revolver and went downstairs, where he found the housebreaker. He knelt at White's order, but then grabbed a bar stool and threw it. White ducked. As the assailant picked up another stool and prepared to throw it, White fired, killing him. (The Post-Intelligencer, Seattle, WA, 02/10/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== After an attempted break-in at her Charleston, West Virginia, home four years ago, 74-year-old Ruby McFarland decided to keep her antique revolver loaded. She recently needed it to scare away two would-be robbers who cut her phone lines and tried to break into her home. As the two tried to get in through the front door, McFarland fired two shots, prompting their flight. "They were going to get me and I wasn't going to let them," said McFarland. (The Daily Mail, Charleston, WV, 02/09/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== A handgun provided the margin of protection Camden, New Jersey, store owner Raoji Prajapati needed when a thief armed with a knife burst into the business, threatened Prajapati's wife with the knife and demanded money. Prajapati drew his pistol and fired, killing the crook. The local prosecutor cleared Prajapati. (The Courier-Post, Cherry Hill, NJ, 02/06/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Returning home one evening, a Garland, Texas, woman was set upon by an armed robber in her driveway. Witnessing the developing situation, the woman's husband confronted the thug, who ordered him back inside the house to get money. The homeowner complied, but also retrieved his shotgun. When the criminal fired at him with a .25 cal. pistol, he responded with a 12-ga. blast that killed the crook. (The Morning News, Dallas, TX, 03/03/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Brenda Lackey runs a convenience store in Gastonia, North Carolina. She is also a former police officer. The man who attempted to rob the store apparently didn't know that. Suspecting the "customer" might try to rob her, Lackey was ready when he demanded money. She drew her 9 mm -- a retirement present commemorating her 16 years as an officer -- and chased him from the store. "I'll always be a police officer," she commented. (The Gaston Gazette, Gastonia, NC, 02/03/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Bob Weaver, owner of the Old West Gun Room in El Cerrito, California, probably thought he was seeing double when twin brothers entered his shop and, after feigning a bit of shopping, pulled handguns and announced a robbery. Weaver knocked the gun out of one's hand and then dove under the counter, where he grabbed his own pistol and started firing. The twins, both wounded, fled, but were quickly apprehended. (West County Times, Richmond, CA, 02/12/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Shelly Greenbaum returned to college to get a degree to help troubled youths. But she was forced to shoot and kill a troubled teenager when he robbed her at gunpoint in a Miami parking lot. Convinced the youthful criminal was going to end the robbery by killing her, Greenbaum pulled her .38 out of her back pocket and fired twice. The dead 19-year-old had juvenile and adult records, police said. (The Herald, Miami, FL, 03/04/94) ===================================================================== From tribune.usask.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!swrinde!news.dell.com!tadpole.com!uunet!news.ingr.com!baggins.edaco.ingr.com!dazixca.dazixca.ingr.com!hound.edaca.ingr.com!crphilli Tue Jun 14 14:33:53 1994 Path: tribune.usask.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!swrinde!news.dell.com!tadpole.com!uunet!news.ingr.com!baggins.edaco.ingr.com!dazixca.dazixca.ingr.com!hound.edaca.ingr.com!crphilli From: crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com (Ron Phillips) Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,ba.politics Subject: Armed Citizen - June 1994 Date: 13 Jun 1994 17:42:39 GMT Organization: "Intergraph Electronics, Mountain View, CA" Lines: 149 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <2ti5qf$483@dazixca.edaca.ingr.com> Reply-To: crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com NNTP-Posting-Host: hound THE ARMED CITIZEN +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Studies indicate that firearms are used over 2 million times a year for personal protection, and that presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents crime in many instances. Shooting usually can be justified only where crime constitutes an immediate, imminent threat to life or limb, or, in some cases, property. Anyone is free to quote or reproduce these accounts. Send clippings to: "The Armed Citizen," 11250 Waples Mill Rd., Fairfax, VA 22030. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ARMED CITIZEN - JUNE 1994 ===================================================================== A father and son teamed up to make a burglar's chosen profession a bit more difficult. Daniel Bracken and his father, Walter Bracken, noticed a strange truck backed up to a family member's home near Albuquerque, so they went to investigate. Daniel was armed with a .30-30. When two intruders tried to run over the elder Bracken with the truck, the younger fired several shots from his rifle, wounding the driver. The other man fled. Police said Daniel Bracken appeared to have acted in self-defense. (The Journal, Albuquerque, NM, 03/11/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Rudely awakened when his girlfriend's former beau broke in and began to beat them both with a broomstick, Uhrichsville, Ohio, resident Dan Mazalic managed to get to a closet where he kept a loaded shotgun. When the intruder continued to beat Mazalic and his girlfriend, Mazalic fired a single blast, fatally wounding the assailant. The shooting ended a day in which the dead man had threatened the couple and apparently kicked in the door of Mazalic's home. (The Times Reporter, New Philadelphia, OH, 03/05/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Jim Dalton, 83, of Higbee, Missouri, was afraid that three men on his front porch were going to rob him, so he locked the door. He was proven correct when one of the men picked up an ax and started to hack his way through the door. Dalton armed himself, and when the men ignored his warnings and broke through the door, Dalton fired his shotgun, wounding one and routing all three. "I wouldn't prosecute a man who was defending his home from three ax-wielding hoodlums," said the local prosecutor. (The Daily Tribune, Columbia, MO, 03/11/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Hearing noises outside his Venice, California, home early one morning, Tak Cho readied his handgun, and took it with him when someone knocked on the door. Cho answered the knock, and when a man tried to force his way in, Cho fired, mortally wounding the intruder. (The Outlook, Venice, CA, 03/22/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== A criminal couple who teamed up to rob a Durham, North Carolina, food store botched it badly when the clerk and his son got the drop on them. The woman held a razor knife to Charles Bailey's neck, but he threw her into a shelving unit and began struggling with her. When her accomplice lunged for the cash register, Harry Brockman, Bailey's stepfather, pulled a .357 and shot him in the shoulder. Brockman then helded subdue his son's attacker, and both would-be robbers were arrested. (The Herald-Sun, Durham, NC, 03/27/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Behind the counter at a Watsonville, California, convenience store, John Miller's evening was rudely interrupted when two men entered the store, demanded money and stabbed him several times. Miller pulled a 9 mm semi-auto and fired, ending the attack. Miller was hospitalized, his wounded attacker arrested. (Santa Cruz County Sentinel, Santa Cruz, CA, 03/29/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== In what is becoming a trend on the west coast, John Ayler was forced to shoot a cougar that charged him and a friend. Noticing that his dogs were acting oddly, Ayler, of Arlington, Washington, put his gun in his belt, and with his friend went outside to look around. When, instead of fleeing, the cougar charged directly at the two men, Ayler pulled his gun and killed the cat. (The Herald, Everett, WA, 03/25/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Out of jail only seven weeks, a convicted burglar returned to his old habits; and an armed citizen ended his "career" permanently. The crook pounded on the door of Curtis Schnepp's Oregon City, Washington, house, breaking the door in the process. He also woke up Schnepp, who was taking a nap. Schnepp got his .357 and found the man crawling through the door. When the man advanced after being ordered to stop, Schnepp fired, mortally wounding him. Schnepp's actions were later affirmed by the county prosecutor. (The Daily News, Longview, WA, 03/31/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Ben and Kate Krantz, owners of a Nashville pawnshop, started wearing guns on the job after losing cash, jewelry and guns in a robbery. A month later, three armed men tried to rob the shop, but this time it turned out very differently. When the trio entered the shop, both Krantzes pulled their guns, and in an exchange of shots, killed one robber and wounded another. A police detective said the three were believed to be members of a local gang. (The Tennessean, Nashville, TN, 03/24/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Believing he was about to be fired from his job with a Fort Pierce, Florida, lawn-care business, a disgruntled employee got a gun and went to the home of his boss. But L.C. Salter, the owner and intended target, was also armed. When the employee pulled his gun, Salter grabbed his .38 out of his truck. In an exchange of shots, the assailant was wounded, while Salter escaped unscathed. (Florida Today, Melbourne, FL, 03/31/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Attempting to help a customer who had entered his Lancaster, Pennsylvania, store, Jose Medina bent over to get cooking oil off a shelf. As he did so, the "customer" whipped out a baseball bat and smashed Medina over the head several times. Although injured and bleeding from a large cut, Medina managed to grab a pistol from behind the counter, prompting the assailant to flee. (The New Era, Lancaster, PA, 03/22/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Uneasy after a man asked to use her phone, a Springfield, Missouri, woman told him to use one at a local convenience store. Suspicious, she got a pistol and put it nearby. A little later, expecting guests, she unlocked her front door, and the stranger entered. He threatened her with a knife and forced her to undress, but she was able to get the gun by claiming she had to use the bathroom. She was then able to fire at the would-be rapist, wounding him. He fled, but was quickly apprehended. (The News-Leader, Springfield, MO, 03/21/94) ===================================================================== From tribune.usask.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!uunet!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gateway Fri Sep 16 14:20:57 1994 Path: tribune.usask.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!uunet!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gateway From: crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com (Ron Phillips) Newsgroups: info.firearms.politics Subject: Armed Citizen - August, 10, 1994 Date: 18 Aug 94 16:33:48 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 156 Approved: Usenet@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Message-ID: <9408181634.AA11259@hound.edaca.ingr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Originator: daemon@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu THE ARMED CITIZEN +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Studies indicate that firearms are used over 2 million times a year for personal protection, and that presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents crime in many instances. Shooting usually can be justified only where crime constitutes an immediate, imminent threat to life or limb, or, in some cases, property. Anyone is free to quote or reproduce these accounts. Send clippings to: "The Armed Citizen," 11250 Waples Mill Rd., Fairfax, VA 22030. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ARMED CITIZEN - AUGUST 10, 1994 ===================================================================== Philadelphian Michael Malloy knew he could be robbed while driving his newspaper delivery truck. That's why the 36-year-old former policeman carried his licensed .44 under his money apron. Then it happened. An armed man entered Malloy's truck and demanded money. Malloy gave him some, but the man insisted that Malloy surrender his money apron too. This gave Malloy the chance to pull his gun. He fired, striking the criminal three times in the side. No charges were filed against Malloy. (The Daily News, Philadelphia, PA, 05/23/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== After her husband died in 1991, Ontario, Oregon, resident Patricia Ireland decided to learn to defend herself by enrolling in a women's gun class. Now she's glad she did. When she heard three men breaking into her home, Ireland called 911 and retrieved her .357 Mag. When one of the men started to break a window, Ireland let a round fly over his head. the perpetrators ran to their car and sped off. they were apprehended later. (Argus Observer, Ontario, OR, 04/25/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== A Kansas City man had more than ring-around-the-collar on his mind when he entered a coin laundry. Brandishing a revolver, he demanded the clerk's wallet. The employee surrendered it, then grabbed his own gun from beneath the counter. The would-be robber shot six times, missing. The clerk shot once, hitting his target. The criminal, who had just been released from prison, fled, but soon turned up at a local hospital. (The Star, Kansas City, MO, 05/13/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== After seeing her 87-year-old husband beaten during a holdup at their north Philadelphia liquor store three weeks previous, Jacqueline Arnao, 78, vowed not to let it happen again. So when three masked men, one brandishing a shotgun, burst into the store, Mrs. Arnao reached for her .38. Firing once, she set the trio running for the door. Mrs. Arnao promised to use the pistol again if need be: "I'm going to go and learn how to shoot it properly so I can get him next time." (The Inquirer, Philadelphia, PA, 04/30/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== "As he was helping himself to my money, I was helping myself to my pistol," says 77-year-old O'Dell Alston of Beaufort, South Carolina, describing her encounter with a knife-wielding robber in Alston's grocery store. Pretending to make a purchase, the robber waited for Alston to open the cash register. He then pulled his weapon and went behind the counter, where be began removing money from the drawer. Once he saw that Alston was armed, however, he fled. Police Lieutenant Steve Rogers said Alston's actions were legal. "You have a right to protect your business, especially when you are threatened with a deadly weapon like a knife." (The Gazette, Beaufort, SC, 04/26/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Phoenix resident John Steyer, 56, had to take a detour from his regular route home at 3 a.m. Feeling somewhat uneasy in the unfamiliar neighborhood, Steyer reached under his seat and unsnapped his pistol holster when a van pulled up next to him. Just then one of the van's occupants opened the door and put a revolver to Steyer's head. Steyer knocked the gunman's arm away and grabbed his own pistol, firing once at the criminal's leg. Steyer then sped off and called the police, who found the wounded culprit still lying in the road. Police officials say Steyer did not commit any firearms violations, and he was later cleared of any criminal wrongdoing. (The Daily News Tribune, Tempe, AZ, 04/20/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== An escapee from the New Hanover, North Carolina, minimum security prison resumed his life of crime almost immediately by breaking into the home of William Jennings Bryan, 58, about a half mile from the prison. Awakened by the sound of breaking glass, Bryan grabbed his .38 Smith & Wesson from the nightstand and confronted the convict in his kitchen. Bryan then ended the felon's brief foray into freedom with a single shot to the chest. The escapee was serving a 24-year sentence under North Carolina's habitual felon law. Police say no charges will be filed against Bryan. (The Daily News, Jacksonville, NC, 05/20/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== "I had my pants in one hand and a pistol in the other and I was buck naked," says Larry Ayres, of Mobile, Alabama. Ayres was relaxing in the bathtub when his wife began screaming that someone was in the house. Ayres ran from the bathroom and confronted the intruder. "All I could see was that he was coming at me with a gun and I wasn't going to let him get to me," Ayres says. He fired twice, killing the intruder. The district attorney says the case does not warrant presentation to a grand jury. (The Press-Register, Mobile, AL, 05/06/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== West Palm Beach, Florida, jewelry store owner Art Samuels was on his way to lunch when he noticed a badly bleeding man rushing out of a store. Samuels ran to the aid of the victim, and a few seconds later an assailant exited the store swinging a pair of nunchakus. "He lunged and came toward me," Samuels said. "I pulled out my gun." A retired U.S. Navy commander, Samuels has a concealed weapons permit for his .40 Glockl with a laser sight. Just the sight of it was enough to make the criminal hit the deck, where he stayed until police arrived. (The Sun-Sentinel, Fort Lauderdale, FL, 05/08/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== When pistol-packing preacher Rev. Ronald Kirk went to investigate the motion alarm going off in his church, he came face to face with a burglar. Kirk pulled his pistol and, fearing the criminal might also have a gun, ordered him to disrobe. When Kirk went to call police, the burglar made a break for it. Police say it wasn't hard to track the bare bandit through the residential neighborhood on Buffalo's east side. They found him minutes later in a house, hiding under a bed. (The News, Buffalo, NY, 04/30/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== A career criminal in Milwaukee may think twice before he strikes again, thanks to an armed homeowner who caught him in the act. The professional thief was shot in the arm and held at gunpoint until police arrived. Police say they had arrested the suspect more than 40 times, and he has been convicted of five felonies. (The Journal, Milwaukee, WI, 04/02/94) ===================================================================== -- ************************************************************ * Ron Phillips crphilli@ingr.com * * Senior Customer Application Engineer * * Intergraph Electronics * * 381 East Evelyn Avenue VOICE: (415) 691-6473 * * Mountain View, CA 94041 FAX: (415) 691-0350 * ************************************************************ From us-firearms-approval@world.std.com Tue Sep 27 17:32:07 1994 From: crphilli@hound.edaca.ingr.com (Ron Phillips) Subject: Armed Citizen - 09/15/94 To: ca-firearms@shell.portal.com (California Firearms), rkba-dems@netcom.com (Democrats For The Second Amendment), firearms-politics@cup.hp.com (Firearms Politics), us-firearms@world.std.com (US Firearms) X-Mailer: ELM [version 06.00.01.12 (2.3 PL11)] Status: RO Content-Length: 9124 X-Lines: 149 THE ARMED CITIZEN +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Studies indicate that firearms are used over 2 million times a year for personal protection, and that presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents crime in many instances. Shooting usually can be justified only where crime constitutes an immediate, imminent threat to life or limb, or, in some cases, property. Anyone is free to quote or reproduce these accounts. Send clippings to: "The Armed Citizen," 11250 Waples Mill Rd., Fairfax, VA 22030. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ARMED CITIZEN - SEPTEMBER 15, 1994 ===================================================================== "I probably wouldn't have gone out there without a gun," says John Gutt of Union Mills, Indiana. Gutt heard two bloodcurdling screams in the early morning outside his rural home. While his daughter called 911, he armed himself and went to investigate, clad only in sweat pants. When he heard another scream and a woman's voice saying, "He's got a gun," Gutt followed the voice to a field, where he found a man on top of a partially clad woman. The would-be rapist ran off, and Gutt escorted the woman to his home. Once police arrived, he helped hunt down the culprit. Gutt later received a public service award for his actions. (The Herald Argus, LaPorte, IN, 07/14/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== "There's never a cop around when you need one," says Wayne Deal of Morgantown, North Carolina. When he saw a woman run from a building screaming that someone was stealing her car and kidnapping her son, Deal hopped in his car and took off in hot pursuit. After a half-mile chase, the criminal pulled over. "It looked like he'd pulled over to push the child out of the car," says Deal. "So I pulled up with my car and blocked him." Deal then retrieved the .22 pistol he legally carries in his car and, firing a warning shot, ordered the fleeing felon to stay put. Police arrived shortly and took the criminal into custody. Mother and son were reunited. (The Observer, Charlotte, NC, 06/15/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Baton Rouge, Louisiana, nurse Alysha Jackson called the police often, complaining of threats and harassment by her estranged husband. Eventually she obtained a restraining order, but in the end it was a gun that saved her from him. Returning from work at midnight, Jackson found her husband had broken into her apartment and was waiting for her. He physically restrained her, but she escaped, went for her gun, and locked herself in the bedroom. When her husband kicked down the door, she shot him in the head, killing him. Police called it an obvious case of justifiable homicide. (The Advocate, Baton Rouge, LA, 06/07/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== It was a hot night in Sacramento, so 80-year-old Lillian Carlson left her porch door open when she went to bed. This provided easy access for an intruder, who appeared in the bedroom. Carlson reached for the gun she has kept in her night stand for 50 years, aimed it at her unwelcome guest, and said, "You can live or die. Which is it going to be?" The culprit walked out and walked back in. Two shots from Carlson's antique revolver convinced him to leave for good. Police arrested a wounded suspect the next morning. (The Bee, Sacramento, CA, 07/12/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== Jim LaChapelle says his house in Elgin, Illinois, has been burglarized four times in 12 years. So when he came home and saw his back door open and the door frame broken, he figured the crooks were at it again. He was right. LaChapelle retrieved one of his guns, confronted two juvenile intruders, and chased them to a locked room, where he held them for police. One of the delinquents had been released from jail a week before, where he served time on a weapons charge. (The Courier-News, Elgin, IL, 06/01/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== William Palmer, 63, retired from the San Francisco police force last year, but his training still comes in handy. Palmer and his wife were pulling into their garage when a man entered right behind them, aimed a gun at Palmer's head, and ordered the couple out of the car. As he climbed out, Palmer knocked the gun from the criminal's hand, drew his own pistol, and shot four times. The wounded suspect and an accomplice were charged with attempted robbery, attempted car-jacking, burglary, and conspiracy. (The Examiner, San Francisco, CA, 06/17/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== A Phoenix motorist stopping at a convenience store for gas got the feeling that something was wrong when a "clerk" told him to take all the gas he wanted. The real clerk was handcuffed on the floor behind the counter with a gun to his head. The alert customer returned to his car, got his gun, and walked to a pay phone to call 911. Seeing this, the robber exited the store and began firing. The customer returned fire, hitting his target in the shoulder. Police arrested the wounded criminal later. (The Arizona Republic, Phoenix, AZ, 05/15/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== There's no question about Maryland House of Delegates candidate Anthony J. Narutowicz's stand on gun control. Narutowicz and his business partner were leaving a bank in the Baltimore suburb of Dundalk when a van pulled up beside them. The van's doors swung open and two armed men demanded money. Both Narutowicz and his partner quickly pulled their own legally carried weapons and opened fire. The van sped away. Police found the abandoned vehicle later, pockmarked with bulled holes and stained with blood. (The Sun, Baltimore, MD, 06/15/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== At 10:30 a.m., in broad daylight, a 35-year-old woman was getting out of her car in a Montgomery, Alabama, parking lot. That's when a man approached from behind, knocked her unconscious, pushed her back into her vehicle, and drove away with her. When she came to, he had driven to some woods. She struggled with him briefly, and then remembered the .38 revolver in her glove compartment. She shot twice, missing, but scaring the daylights out of the kidnapper, who slammed on the brakes and raced away on foot. He remains at large. (The Advertiser, Montgomery, AL, 07/11/94) ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ===================================================================== A 300-lb. bear broke into Colfax County, New Mexico, ranger Jim Marchetti's home, helping himself to a free meal. Several days later, the bear was back. This time Marchetti was ready for him. Awakened by his barking dog at 3 a.m., Marchetti grabbed his flashlight and his .44 Mag. and went to investigate. He found the bruin in the kitchen. "...he looked right at me and started to rise up. I wasn't sure what that look meant, whether he was going to come at me or go the other way. I helped him make up his mind." The wounded bear escaped; Marchetti tracked it and finished it off the next morning. (The Journal, Albuquerque, NM, 07/06/94) ===================================================================== -- ************************************************************ * Ron Phillips crphilli@ingr.com * * Senior Customer Application Engineer * * Intergraph Electronics * * 381 East Evelyn Avenue VOICE: (415) 691-6473 * * Mountain View, CA 94041 FAX: (415) 691-0350 * ************************************************************ From tribune.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!news.mic.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!rtp.vnet.net!news.sprintlink.net!connected.com!beauty!rwing!eskimo!stealth Thu Apr 14 10:49:41 1994 Path: tribune.usask.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!news.mic.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!rtp.vnet.net!news.sprintlink.net!connected.com!beauty!rwing!eskimo!stealth From: stealth@eskimo.com (Kirt Mackintosh) Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: Fighting Back in Seattle Message-ID: Date: 9 Apr 94 07:25:22 GMT Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Lines: 93 From the Seattle Times, April 7, 1994 Headline - Victim? No Way; She Fought Back Subtitle - Druggist who killed robber is hailed SEATTLE - Sometimes the victims win, and people cheer. That's what's happening at North Seattle's Holiday Pharmacy, where Vicki McFarlane yesterday was beginning to realize what she'd done when she shot back at a robber. More than 30 bouquets of flowers were delivered throughout the day. People constantly came in to wish her well. The telephone rang continually. Reporters and photographers came and went. "I live in the neighborhood" said one man who stopped by. "You don't know me. You did the right thing." Then he gave her a box of Eldorado Starfire .38-caliber special ammunition, "to replace the ones you used." What McFarlane did was kill someone trying to rob her drug store. "I'm just sick of what's going on," she said. "I'm just fed up." "I took dead aim and fired like that," she said, showing how she held her revolver out in front of her, with two hands, as she'd practiced. "I just hope something good comes of this," she added. Judging from the visitors and cards, the good was that she showed how citizens aren't always victims. In recent weeks, Seattle has seen a good Samaritan slain when he stopped to help a woman on Denny Way, a Ballard High School student shot, apparently inadvertently, in a gang killing and two people killed ina cafe shooting that was linked by police to gangs. "I didn't have any idea of what I was doing, except to protect myself and my mom," said McFarlande. "I never wanted to be a heroine." The episode started about 6:30pm Tuesday, when two men went into the pharmacy at 13510 Aurora Avenue North. McFarlane was sure the robbers had "cased" the business before attacking, waiting until her customers were gone and she seemed to be alone in the shop. "At first I figrued it was to be a forged prescription," she said. "But then they came right back to the counter, pushed me, told me this was a robbery." She also wasn't alone. Her mother, Sara English, 71, was working at the other end of the counter, and the robbers found her. "He put a hammer to her head," McFarlane said of the heavier of the two men. Both women were pushed and shoved and threatened. The heavier man was holding English with the hammer above her head. That's when something happened to McFarlane. "I turned around and told him, 'I don't think so, not this time,' " she said. They began fighting. In the end, she grabbed a handgun she kept under a rear counter and fired twice at the more slender of her two attackers. He staggered out the door and died on the street. The second man fled out a rear door and drove away in a beige or pinkish car. McFarlane fired two more shots at the car as it drove away. "I had no emotion whatsoever," she said. "I was tired of my mother being hit with a hammer." The dead man was identified by the King County medical examiner's office as Steven Mark Spivey, 38, who had no known address. Spivey most recently pleaded guilty to second-degree burglary in King County Superior Court on December 27th. Before that, he was charged with forgery and drug abuse in 1990 in Snohomish County Superior Court and pleaded guilty to those charges February 10, 1992. The second suspect, 30, surrendered to Seattle detectives at 7:30 last night. -- \ Stealth@Eskimo.com |_\ \|/ Duvall, Washington, USA < _ > ---------------- * From tribune.usask.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!news.mic.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!convex!darwin.sura.net!usenews!sunisis.nrlssc.navy.mil!bob Thu Jul 14 14:07:15 1994 Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Path: tribune.usask.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!news.mic.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!convex!darwin.sura.net!usenews!sunisis.nrlssc.navy.mil!bob From: bob@sunisis.nrlssc.navy.mil (Robert S. Linzell) Subject: Armed Citizens in New Orleans, 1 of 2 Message-ID: Followup-To: talk.politics.guns Sender: news@usenews.nrlssc.navy.mil Nntp-Posting-Host: sunisis.nrlssc.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab Detachment Stennis Space Center Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 18:08:45 GMT Lines: 23 On Monday, July 11, 1994, WWL-TV Channel 4 in New Orleans reported on their morning news that a lawful self-defense shooting occurred that Sunday night (07/10/94). A janitor at the Burger King restaurant at 6500 Morrison Ave. witnessed a fight in which the store manager was wrestling over a gun with Eric Walker. The janitor got his gun and fatally shot Walker. New Orleans police stated that this was a justified homicide. The news media, however, apparently consider this to be another murder. There have been over 200 murders in New Orleans so far this year, in spite of the Brady Law and a controversial curfew for minors. We're doing our part, though. <;^) --Yours in the Struggle, Bob -- __________________________________________________________________ |Robert S. Linzell bob@sunisis.nrlssc.navy.mil (128.160.33.30) | |#include | (Just my own $0.02) | | Pro-choice, Pro-2nd Amendment: Feared by Liberals & Conservatives| | Bumper Sticker of the Year: "Impeach Clinton...And Her Husband" | |__________________________________________________________________| From tribune.usask.ca!decwrl!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!usenews!sunisis.nrlssc.navy.mil!bob Thu Jul 14 14:07:22 1994 Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Path: tribune.usask.ca!decwrl!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!usenews!sunisis.nrlssc.navy.mil!bob From: bob@sunisis.nrlssc.navy.mil (Robert S. Linzell) Subject: Armed Citizens in New Orleans, 2 of 2 Message-ID: Followup-To: talk.politics.guns Sender: news@usenews.nrlssc.navy.mil Nntp-Posting-Host: sunisis.nrlssc.navy.mil Organization: Naval Research Lab Detachment Stennis Space Center Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 18:16:46 GMT Lines: 37 This morning (07/14/94) on WWL-TV Channel 4 in New Orleans, a report was aired on the news that a cab driver shot an armed robber last night. A 68-year-old driver for the White Fleet cab company picked up Vitago (sp?) Lewis and another person at the 2500 block of Laurel Street in New Orleans. Lewis pulled a gun on the unnamed driver and fired but missed. The driver then shot Lewis in the chest, but the accomplice escaped and was still at large as of this morning. The "alleged" perpetrator is in stable condition at a New Orleans hospital, and will be charged with attempted armed robbery and attempted murder. There has been no word whether the cab company will take punitive action against the driver; I suspect that most cab companies here forbid their drivers to carry firearms. Another cab driver was shot and killed a couple of months ago in Arabi, which is a suburb of New Orleans. Also heard on this morning's news: a 19-year-old was shot and killed early this morning, despite New Orleans' controversial dusk-to-dawn curfew for minors. Some of the local TV stations are really pushing this curfew, with PSAs in the evening reminding parents about it (e.g., "It's almost 9:00, do you know where your kids are?")--broadcast at around 8:45 p.m. A local afternoon talk show is going to have a special about the curfew today, including local children who will give their opinions about the curfew. I almost stayed home today so I wouldn't miss it. NOT! --Yours in the Struggle, Bob -- __________________________________________________________________ |Robert S. Linzell bob@sunisis.nrlssc.navy.mil (128.160.33.30) | |#include | (Just my own $0.02) | | Pro-choice, Pro-2nd Amendment: Feared by Liberals & Conservatives| | Bumper Sticker of the Year: "Impeach Clinton...And Her Husband" | |__________________________________________________________________| From tribune.usask.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!news.mic.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!news1.hh.ab.com!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!romigr Fri Jul 22 14:28:19 1994 Path: tribune.usask.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!news.mic.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!news1.hh.ab.com!iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com!romigr From: romigr@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com (BOB) Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: A kid with a gun! Date: 22 Jul 94 14:32:19 EST Organization: AB Lines: 23 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <1994Jul22.143219.1@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> References: <1994Jul22.141954.1@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alf.cs.hh.ab.com Heard this on 1100 AM Cleve Oh today. In Co. a 13 yr old inside his house responded to a guy breaking into it. First he got his siblings and locked themselves in their parents room. The robber then tried to come through the bedroom door. The kid went and got dad's .357 and fired a shot through the bedroom door striking the robber in the chest. The robber left the house and assumed room temp. on the lawn. The dad said " he did just what I instructed him to do if a criminal tried to go through the door" refering as to where to shoot the door. While it is not a good idea to fire unless the target is positively identified, under these circumstances I would have done the same. The DA said "this is a clear case of justifiable homicide. There will be no charges against the father for allowing a minor access to a firearm". Seems to me firearm saftey, RKBA saved the lives of those children and gave a robber real justice!!! Gun control is hitting your target! Good job kid! RDR From tribune.usask.ca!decwrl!portal.com!uunet!Mercury.secapl.com!bass!clarinews Thu Jul 28 09:05:13 1994 Path: tribune.usask.ca!decwrl!portal.com!uunet!Mercury.secapl.com!bass!clarinews From: clarinews@clarinet.com (AP) Newsgroups: clari.local.oklahoma,clari.news.trouble,clari.news.guns Distribution: clari.apo Subject: Boy Kills Intruder With Magnum Keywords: U.S. news and features Copyright: 1994 by The Associated Press, R Message-ID: References: X-Supersedes: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:40:34 PDT Expires: Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:40:34 PDT ACategory: usa Slugword: Teen-Intruder Priority: regular ANPA: Wc: 502/0; Id: V0227; Src: ap; Sel: -----; Adate: 07-22-N/A; Ver: 0/2; V: 0509 Approved: clarinews@clarinet.com Codes: APO-1110 Lines: 54 Xref: tribune.usask.ca clari.local.oklahoma:103 clari.news.trouble:10109 clari.news.guns:160 TULSA, Okla. (AP) -- The four brothers were home alone when a man burst in. The boys scattered. The eldest -- just 13 -- went for his stepfather's .357 Magnum and fired through the bedroom door, striking the man in the chest. The intruder stumbled into the front yard and collapsed dead. ``We taught him where to aim at the door if the door rattled,'' said the boy's stepfather, Gary Miner. ``He did exactly as he was instructed.'' District Attorney David Moss ruled it a ``pretty clear-cut'' justifiable shooting. He also ruled out charges against the parents for allowing Jarrod Barnes and his brothers access to the gun. The break-in occurred in the middle of the day Wednesday, in a quiet, middle-class neighborhood. Miner, standing on on his porch with a cigarette Thursday, said the boys were coping fine so far. He said he was the one who was shaken. ``I just can't describe it. You feel violated,'' he said. ``We didn't know if the man would have considered hurting them.'' Miner, who works out of the family's three-bedroom brick home, said he was running a business errand when the break-in occurred. His wife was at her office, and the boys were home from school for the summer. When the man burst in through the front door, the 7- and 9-year-olds bolted into the bathroom, while Jarrod and his 12-year-old brother ran to a bedroom. As Jarrod reached for his father's weapon, his brother dialed 911. But the stranger kept coming, the boys told police. Detectives found a 15-inch screwdriver and a pocket knife on the body. Police Friday identified the intruder as Samuel Lee Britt Jr., 41, and said he has had contact with police previously. No other information on Britt was immediately available. Police had said earlier that there didn't appear to be a connection between the family and the intruder. Police searched for a woman seen driving from the home; she may have been the getaway driver. Miner said his two oldest sons attended gun safety classes sponsored by the state Wildlife Conservation Department. And all his boys enjoy fishing and hunting. ``I consider the older boys to be experts with firearms,'' Miner said. Neighbors and others rallied around the family. ``It's amazing that it wasn't the other way around. They could have been the victim,'' said neighbor Norma Row. ``That would have been a tragedy -- it is whichever way you look at it.'' KRMG radio talk show host Marc Sherman said 25 people called Thursday morning about the shooting, wanting to make the boy a hero. ``Has there been a fund started for these kids, for this family?'' asked a caller who identified himself as Ken. ``This mom and dad and these kids come home every day and there's a bullet hole in the wall. There's blood on the carpet. These things need to be replaced immediately. They need help, they need some counseling. I would be glad to make a donation.''